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Old March 12th, 2006, 05:18 PM
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Defender Oil Cooler Status Poll: Please Read.

(Mike or CvC, would you guys be able to sticky this one)

Ok, this is seriously getting out of hand regarding oil cooler lines having catastrophic failures. If this was Chevy or Ford, there would have been investigations by Congress (I.E. Ford Pinto and Chevy Pickups). This is made even worse by the fact that the oil cooler system isn't covered in any form in the factory Rover manuals, nor is there any suggested change interval for the parts.

As the small number of vehicles is fairly small, I would like to start getting information from people regarding the status of their oil lines and any past issues. Even if nothing bad ever happened, I'd like to know.

So, if you guys could, here is the info I am looking for.

Defender Tail Number (from the back plate)
Oil Line Condition or past issues
Milage

If you had any type of failure, please be as specific as possible, ESPECIALLY if it includes ANY type of underhood fire.
Such as....

total separation mid hose with loss of oil pressure, no fire, engine appears to function normally, 110,000 miles in 2004
or
oil spray from cracks in hose, small fire, 75,000 miles, 2002
or
large underhood fire at 78,000 miles on passenger side. exact cause unknown, 1999

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Example #1 (Mine)


Defender #292
Oil lines replaced at 85,000 miles in 2005 due to being bad cracking and rot
Replaced with aftermarket components.


Example #2 (Generic)
Defender # C445
Oil lines in good condition at 45,000 miles, 2006

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Old March 12th, 2006, 08:15 PM
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I'm not sure this is out of hand at all - I wince at the idea of this becoming another BMW v8 nikasil issue where people think that a design flaw that caused a failure outside of warranty is the fault of the manufacturer and all the litigation that has created.

I dont like trucks catching on fire any more than anyone else, but I dont want to see a lynching either.
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Old March 12th, 2006, 08:46 PM
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Oh, I'm not thinking about a mob with pitchforks and torches marching on Soilihil..... I just would like to gather enough info to see how much of an issue this really is. But if we are talking something like 5-10-15% of all NAS Defenders have had some kind of major issue, then it's a different story altogether.

It just kinda irk's me that other car companies have been known to do recalls on cars of this age when something safety related comes about, but I don't even know if Land Rover ever even acknowledged this as an issue that requires maintenance. If it was just something mechanical that broke from time to time and needed replacement I could deal with it. But 60mph rolling engine fires kinda crosses the line in my opinion.

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We already have a list of what ERC was trying to look for nailing down a explanation of whats causing this issue. I'll see if I can find the thread.
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At a minimum, I think LR could issue bulletin, advise people of the potential danger, and offer relevant parts through the dealer network (which are currently getting hard to source). Given there is no mention of it in the service guidelines section, and given the associated risks with failure, I think this merits their attention.

This is far short of demanding free work or threatening lawsuits.

If anything I would reserve the pitchforks for the disappointing design direction. If I wanted an X5 I would buy one.
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