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Old November 30th, 2015, 07:40 AM
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Old December 8th, 2015, 10:51 AM
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Old December 8th, 2015, 11:01 AM
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The new trucks have been in testing for at least a year. This is well known. What amazes me is how no spy shots have leaked out.
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Old December 9th, 2015, 12:13 AM
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Maybe it looks so close to the old one that no one has noticed them to take spy shots yet.
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Old December 9th, 2015, 12:19 AM
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Maybe it looks so close to the old one that no one has noticed them to take spy shots yet.
One could only wish! ;-)
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Old December 9th, 2015, 09:13 AM
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Old December 9th, 2015, 09:13 AM
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Moving up Market?
Not a good sign.. they should compete with the Wrangler and that means 40-50K in the US.. Hopefully they won't over do it and produce a Lux'd up free lander..

Oh well.. Back to the original plan.. Take over the LC and buy the wife the 4Runner she wants.. Hard to beat $35 oil changes and regular service vs the Range Rover we were looking at for the same money.. and you can buy a lot of Range Rover for $43k (or less) these days.
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This really sucks! I did not hear this!
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Old December 9th, 2015, 01:09 PM
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I think the chicken tax is for light duty trucks. Maybe they will offer a 3/4 ton 130 Hi-cap pick up to get around it. That would be awesome.
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Old December 9th, 2015, 01:42 PM
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Good lord, that is stupid ==> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax
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Old December 9th, 2015, 01:44 PM
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So it needs a payload of greater than 4000 lbs?
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No more ridiculous than the 25 yr rule.

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I think the chicken tax might be a bit more ridiculous. I get the need for the 25 year rule.

To me, the dumb thing about the 25 year rule is that the vehicle must come into the US in its original configuration. 25 years is also a bit too long - it should be more like Canada's 15 years.
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25 years is also a bit too long - it should be more like Canada's 15 years.
True and admit that the rule is solely to protect new car sales. Don't make shit up by saying it is for emissions or safety reasons.
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True and admit that the rule is solely to protect new car sales. Don't make shit up by saying it is for emissions or safety reasons.
Yes - the only safety component to it would be with recalls. If you were importing new vehicles that could not be serviced in the US in the event of a recall then that would be a safety concern.

The law is really there to protect the dealer networks. Its probably not even that relevant anymore.

I wonder if the 25 year old restriction was lifted and you could import a vehicle for personal use (not dealer resale), what would happen to the Defender market in the US? Would NAS still appreciate in value?
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Old December 9th, 2015, 03:22 PM
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Ok, what is the need?

The 25 year old cars are neither safer, nor cleaner than a 24, 20, or 15 year old model. The only need for a 25 year rule is to protect the interests of large corporations.

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I get the need for the 25 year rule.

To me, the dumb thing about the 25 year rule is that the vehicle must come into the US in its original configuration. 25 years is also a bit too long - it should be more like Canada's 15 years.
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Old December 9th, 2015, 03:28 PM
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Ok, what is the need?

The 25 year old cars are neither safer, nor cleaner than a 24, 20, or 15 year old model. The only need for a 25 year rule is to protect the interests of large corporations.
The need is just as you said. I didn't say I like it or support it, I just get the need for that one.

The chicken tax is just silly-- "You won't let me import chicken, fuck off then I wont let you import light trucks"
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And if you get your trucks built in Canada or Mexico, no tax. Not sure how the rule helps out the USA. all it does is hurt smaller producers like Land Rover.
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