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Old August 29th, 2013, 05:21 PM
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Old August 31st, 2013, 10:29 AM
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I know this awful, but was anyone else impressed with the heavy machinery operators dexterity with that machine? The way he pinched the tires was impressive. I can't imagine the hours behind the controls of that thing to get that good.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 10:50 AM
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Customs run amok in Charleston, SC

Hi folks,
I'm new to the Land Rover community but I have a story for everyone regarding customs and importing a Defender.
I just purchased and imported a 1985 110 from the UK, I bought it on the cheap and paid 8500.00 for it so my import duties were going to be a measly 212.00 well that did not appear good enough for our friends in customs at the Charleston SC port. They of course put it on customs hold (Agriculture) for having dirt on it, (it was steam cleaned prior to shipping) they gave me the three choices. 1 clean 2. re-export 3. destroy I chose the first at the tune of $1885.00 which included a 30% tariff. I paid my money and got it off the property, crawled underneath it to find dirt everywhere.

Moral of the story, even if you get a good deal and reduce the import duty you are going to pay duty on an $80k vehicle no matter what, at least in Charleston

Lloyd
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 10:54 AM
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You should take pictures of it and sue the ass off of them for non supply of goods... you paid for a steam clean, and it came back just as dirty!
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 11:10 AM
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but yeah that is total bullshit. . .
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 11:23 AM
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Wow...not only was my chassis covered in mud , it had a about dozen apples in the back...Doug had zero issues with it clearing customs...
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 12:09 AM
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Wow...not only was my chassis covered in mud , it had a about dozen apples in the back...Doug had zero issues with it clearing customs...
A dozen apples a day keeps the CBP away ...
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 01:26 AM
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Hi folks,
I'm new to the Land Rover community but I have a story for everyone regarding customs and importing a Defender.
I just purchased and imported a 1985 110 from the UK, I bought it on the cheap and paid 8500.00 for it so my import duties were going to be a measly 212.00 well that did not appear good enough for our friends in customs at the Charleston SC port. They of course put it on customs hold (Agriculture) for having dirt on it, (it was steam cleaned prior to shipping) they gave me the three choices. 1 clean 2. re-export 3. destroy I chose the first at the tune of $1885.00 which included a 30% tariff. I paid my money and got it off the property, crawled underneath it to find dirt everywhere.

Moral of the story, even if you get a good deal and reduce the import duty you are going to pay duty on an $80k vehicle no matter what, at least in Charleston

Lloyd
Lloyd, This is exactly what happened to my truck in Charleston. Exactly. I paid even less for mine and also had it steam cleaned prior to shipping. They charged the 1800 plus tariff, storage and the whole lot... and I still found dirt underneath it when I finally got it. I took photos and documented everything with the intention of contacting my state representative (who are the official last line of defense for dealing with oversight of federal orgs), but I never did because I didn't want to wake up with the proverbial horse-head in my bed.

Story begins half-way down on first page: http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...eferrerid=8652

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Wow...not only was my chassis covered in mud , it had a about dozen apples in the back...Doug had zero issues with it clearing customs...
This story was told to me when my truck was seized on FDA regs... times, or inspectors have changed. Oh, and people are shady.
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 01:36 AM
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Give "ontheway" a cigar for correctly stating "my state representative (who are the official last line of defense for dealing with oversight of federal orgs)" !
Who knows that any more? Ever since kids learned the Constitution via Saturday morning cartoons, state legislators hide behind the ignorance. Now we even have the Byrne Grant program whereby the Feds award state law enforcement for writing more tickets (which is why they prefer patrolling the straight, flat, sections of freeways rather than the dangerous ones) & military armored personnel carriers are used for the most routine police work. Who was supposed to stop these abuses? States. Who should make the feds spend our money doing more important things than crushing British SUVs? The States. It's not a Democrat vs. Republican thing, our problem is Central Control vs. Sovereign States. Both parties are terminally wrong. If only more people knew. Thanks ontheway
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 04:49 AM
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 04:53 AM
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"... contacting my state representative (who are the official last line of defense for dealing with oversight of federal orgs)..."


The very first thing I did when I learned my 110 was seized was contact my congressional representative, and filed a complaint/inquiry. Its been 5 months, and havent heard a single word from his office. Im not at all surprised though.
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 05:32 AM
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No truck either 85red110?
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 08:38 AM
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Hi folks,
I'm new to the Land Rover community but I have a story for everyone regarding customs and importing a Defender.
I just purchased and imported a 1985 110 from the UK, I bought it on the cheap and paid 8500.00 for it so my import duties were going to be a measly 212.00 well that did not appear good enough for our friends in customs at the Charleston SC port. They of course put it on customs hold (Agriculture) for having dirt on it, (it was steam cleaned prior to shipping) they gave me the three choices. 1 clean 2. re-export 3. destroy I chose the first at the tune of $1885.00 which included a 30% tariff. I paid my money and got it off the property, crawled underneath it to find dirt everywhere.

Moral of the story, even if you get a good deal and reduce the import duty you are going to pay duty on an $80k vehicle no matter what, at least in Charleston

Lloyd
Exact same thing happened to me. None of my trucks come thorough charleston anymore!
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 12:18 PM
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FYI,
I have just sent the following or similar correspondence to the complaint department at DHS, my Senators and the congressman from my district here in Tennessee, I will be resending the emails once a week until I get a response. Let's see what happens.

Dear Sir or Madame,
I am contacting you to ask for your assistance with what I believe to be a serious issue with regards to the customs officials and/or inspectors at the Port of Charleston, South Carolina. I would first like to say that although I would not refuse reimbursement of the funds I paid as will be explained below, that is not the reason for this letter.
I recently purchased and imported a 1985 Land Rover Defender from the United Kingdom, This vehicle was purchased on Ebay and was shipped over on a roll on, roll off ship which arrived on August 24th at the port of Charleston. All paperwork for this importation was in order and the vehicle was legal to import due to its age which verified by it’s Vehicle Identification Number
Upon arrival and subsequent customs inspection, it was found to be compliant for importation due to its age and unmodified condition, however it was placed on customs hold by the Department of Agriculture for having excessive amounts of contaminated soil from a foreign country on it (specifically I was told it was packed in the back bumper) Exactly how is was determined to be contaminated soil without being testing is beyond me.
I was informed via an emergency action notification, sent to my broker and forwarded to me via email that I had three choices;
The first was to have the unit steam cleaned by the port or its contractor to remove, contain and destroy the contaminated soil, then have it released for import.
The second was to re-export the vehicle back to its point of origin.
The third was to have the vehicle destroyed.
The only viable solution was the first as either of the other two would end up costing me my entire investment plus the possible additional costs of re-exportation.
I received a copy of the quotation from my broker via email along with a description of the process. We then agreed to the charges as I did in fact want the vehicle and had to protect my investment as best I could.
At this time I requested photos of the vehicle prior to it being treated to show the contaminated soil (no photos have been provided by anyone at the time of this correspondence)
The vehicle was allegedly cleaned on the 29th and released from customs hold by midday on the same day. I travelled to Charleston, that day to pick it up and drive it back to Tennessee on the 30th.
As I did not want to provide any additional reason for the CBP to delay me from taking possession of the vehicle, I did very little questioning with regards to the process, however I was freely informed that this same process used to be performed by the port employees for a reasonable fee of around $ 150.00 with a process called “warm water wash”. I was also informed that it was now done by outside contractors to make the fees more punitive ($ 1885.00 including a 30% tariff fee for me) to reduce the number of dirty vehicles from entering the country.
As a side note, this vehicle was power washed prior to leaving the UK by a company that washes vehicles professionally for both the city buses and taxis.
I was escorted / driven by a very pleasant port official to get the vehicle, which was parked in their wash bay/ outbuilding with pressure washing equipment.
This in my opinion was highly suspect, based upon the circumstances.
At this point, after having the vehicle jump started, I took possession of the vehicle and drove it off of the port property.
Once I was afforded the opportunity to do so, I looked and wiped up under the vehicle and there was still a significant amount to soil still under the vehicle, making me further question if this was not just an elaborate scam invoking government regulations by the CBP or the port operators as they can hold the vehicle indefinitely or order it destroyed at their discretion with little or no recourse available to the owner.
As of this time and since I have a suitable location I have continued to check and clean the under carriage of the vehicle, I am estimating that I have removed at minimum of a pound and a half of so called “contaminated soil” that was not removed by their extensive and expensive process so far and have only cleaned approximately ¼ to 1/3 of the vehicles under carriage. I fail to understand that if it is so important to insure that the soil does not contaminate our ecosystem, why would such a sub-standard job be performed, and how those requiring it be done accept it?
I regret thinking that this is another way to tax citizens when the sales value of the vehicle is low and the duty fees are minimal, however it certainly fits the circumstances.
I will be retaining this soil in a sealed container and possibly even having it tested to determine if the country of origin can be identified and if possible and having it analyzed to determine what if any contaminants are actually present.
I have additionally gone onto the internet and checked with several other owners of Land Rovers, who have imported vehicles through Charleston, several will no longer use this port due to this re-occurring issue in the past, at least one still has a vehicle in customs from 5 months ago for other reasons.
In closing I would like to reiterate that although I did spend a significant amount to have this “process performed”, it is not my goal to get reimbursed, I am more concerned about a group of government officials taking advantage of their positions and the situation in order to generate revenue for the port or other local businesses at the expense of law abiding citizens.
Your prompt response to this letter is not only appreciated, but expected as we have been inundated recently with stories of the Federal government abuse of power in other departments.

Please also note that I have sent similar correspondence to both of Tennessee’s senators and the congressman in my district.

Please note that I have all correspondence and supporting documents regarding the entire importation process available if needed.

Sincerely,

Lloyd Borba Jr
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 12:34 PM
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Lloyd, you should state your pain points - including your your assertion that this port is potentially involved in "falsely" detaining and ordering these ineffective charges - within the first few sentences, instead of toward the very end. Most of these people won't read much more than your first paragraph unless you catch their attention. Go on to state how you know of many others who have had suspiciously similar interactions with this same port, even after their vehicles were initially cleared to leave the port.
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 07:39 PM
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fwiw. I only ship to Charleston when asked to. Newark and Charleston are my least favorite ports.
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Old September 5th, 2013, 12:41 PM
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Old September 5th, 2013, 12:45 PM
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Sure will be interesting...it is in the country already been registered (I assume in AZ) so not sure the CBP folks would be involved - but maybe NTSB? Will be interesting to see what the sellers response is to the 25 or more questions he is getting on eBay RIGHT NOW from forum members hehehe
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Old September 9th, 2013, 12:00 PM
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I showed this video to my fiance and she got upset that someone would do that to a Defender. When I saw a few tears roll down her face, I knew right then and there I was marrying the right woman, lol.
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