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Old October 6th, 2016, 12:28 PM
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Old October 6th, 2016, 12:32 PM
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It was also posted here on D90:

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Old October 6th, 2016, 01:36 PM
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Adam: Never worth injecting yourself into something like this when you have nothing to gain from.
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Old October 6th, 2016, 01:51 PM
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I understand your perspective Chris. I certainly have nothing to gain. Consider it a public service announcement/buyer beware. No different than the dozens of other threads about bad business dealings which populate this forum and help us all guide who to do/not do business with.

Edit: if I *did* have something to gain by posting this, that would be pretty callous.
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Old October 6th, 2016, 02:00 PM
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Anyone know the deal with that tan 110 he built. I remember the owner being super gung-ho about it while it was being built and Dale being defensive when I commented on the huge paint drips in the seatbox. How it wasn't a concourse restoration and would be covered. I hate those type of excuses. Either do it right or accept you are sloppy.

From what I remember the truck had a 300 for a hot minute then a v8 and then it was for sale by that sketch dealer in Colorado.
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Old October 6th, 2016, 03:40 PM
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Anyone know the deal with that tan 110 he built. I remember the owner being super gung-ho about it while it was being built and Dale being defensive when I commented on the huge paint drips in the seatbox. How it wasn't a concourse restoration and would be covered. I hate those type of excuses. Either do it right or accept you are sloppy.

From what I remember the truck had a 300 for a hot minute then a v8 and then it was for sale by that sketch dealer in Colorado.

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...s-46245-2.html
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Old October 6th, 2016, 04:27 PM
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So the original customer never chimed in.
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Search "Oates" on this site. The 'individual' you speak of built a salvaged D90 into a tan 110 for a client (member here) who would occasionally post pics of the build when the 'individual' would send him pics. Members here would notice questionable quality of work and the 'individual' eventually asked the client to stop posting in-progress pics since they weren't an "accurate representation" of the finished product. The client took delivery of the truck and intended to drive it home but it didn't make it. A member here (mechanic) saw the truck to try to get it running for the trip home and had many questions about the build and workmanship and warned the new owner. The new owner eventually sold it back to the 'individual' (likely at a significant loss), and the 'individual' claimed the client had expectations that far exceeded what a Defender could be. When members here questioned why the engine was being replaced this time around for the 'individual's' second flip, the he said it was because the V8 would be easier to register in other states, and had nothing to do with the engine having failed within 2k miles of taking delivery of the truck.
Two different members here have told me this story with very similar accounts. Knowing the story, you can key in to the subtle qips on the "Oates" thread.
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Adam: Never worth injecting yourself into something like this when you have nothing to gain from.
Its good for the community so that people can be aware of potential issues with vendors.
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