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Old December 23rd, 2013, 04:49 PM
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D110 driving characteristics

A recent posting on the Vehicles For Sale section noted this about their NAS 110:

"Plus, it's not fun to drive. My D90 was fun. This isn't"

Anyone who has driven a NAS D110, how does it drive compare to a D90? (on road or off)
I find a nice firm ride on live axles coupled with a V8 and stick shift makes a D90 fun to drive.
On the other hand, freeway driving at high speeds can be a chore.
Is a 110 too heavy, unwieldy, etc etc compared to a 90?

I am talking strictly about the subjective driving experience, not how good it is off-road or how fun it is to wrench or talk shop with other owners, etc.
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 04:54 PM
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I've driven a few 110s, IMO I don't think he liked driving the ZF over the 5 speed. Just my opinion!
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 05:14 PM
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I really enjoy driving my 110. Although it is the 2.5 and really doesn't like some of the hills around here, it rides amazingly good. I had a bit of wandering at road speed, but alignment took care of that. I know I joke about it driving like my JD....it's not really awful. I am currently attempting to get new front seats to match the mid ones I put in before VOT. From what I'm told, they make the experience even more tolerable. All that being said, it won't match the ride of the Callaway...but it's not support to.
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In many respects a 110 is easier to drive compared to the 90.
I notice that the 90 is easier to maneuver but the 110s longer wheelbase gives it more stability on the highway.

You also have to consider that so many Defenders (90s and 110s) are modified and the ROWs rarely have sway bars.
My old '84 110 wandered on the highway and had tons of body roll probably because of soft springs and tired shocks. My current 110 has HD OME springs and double rear shocks and stays straight with very little driver input even at 75mph. No body roll on corners.

Compared to driving a 90 when I felt like I had to constantly pay attention on the highway. But the NAS 90 I was driving was much easier to run around town etc.

I think this is just a loaded question because a 90 and 110 offer completely different utility depending on the user. The term "fun" should be applied to both.
If you can't have "fun" driving a 90 or a 110, then you have bigger problems
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 05:57 PM
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A recent posting on the Vehicles For Sale section noted this about their NAS 110: "Plus, it's not fun to drive. My D90 was fun. This isn't" Anyone who has driven a NAS D110, how does it drive compare to a D90? (on road or off) I find a nice firm ride on live axles coupled with a V8 and stick shift makes a D90 fun to drive. On the other hand, freeway driving at high speeds can be a chore. Is a 110 too heavy, unwieldy, etc etc compared to a 90? I am talking strictly about the subjective driving experience, not how good it is off-road or how fun it is to wrench or talk shop with other owners, etc.
"The not fun to drive" NAS was a converted automatic correct?
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 06:45 PM
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A D90 with a SafariGard three-link is not fun to drive, its scary.
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 06:55 PM
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The longer the wheelbase the better the ride on the road. 90's are fun off road or an inner city environ.
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 07:05 PM
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I have had an ExMod 90 and have a ExMoD 110, same lift, tires, 2,5na, no power steering etc, and Jackie is dead on when he says "In many respects a 110 is easier to drive compared to the 90.
I notice that the 90 is easier to maneuver but the 110s longer wheelbase gives it more stability on the highway." The 90 is easier in town/tight trails but with the longer wheel base the 110 is better on the road.
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I've driven ROW and NAS 110's and I thought they were both a blast to drive. Both had manual transmissions. I have also driven a NAS 90 and it was fun to but I preferred the size of the 110 it gave a bit better ride.

In the end I prefer the ROW 110 I love the confused looks on the faces of people when the realize the passenger seat is empty.
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 08:43 PM
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"The not fun to drive" NAS was a converted automatic correct?
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 09:08 PM
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longer is better-ie 130
That's what she said.

I tend to drive the 110 over the 90 but it has to do with the 2nd row and needing to get kids in and out of seats.
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I preferred driving my 110 over my 90 for most trips. On road a 110 rides better and is much less bouncy. That said back in the UK the 110 felt like it had way more oversteer than my 90 did going through roundabouts. Still preferred it, though.

Realistically I don't know how anyone can focus on the driving feel because of the noise.
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A D90 with a SafariGard three-link is not fun to drive, its scary.
Incorrect. I've daily-ed mine on 37's and beadlocks during the warm months for years. Had it up to 90+ even.
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That's what she said.
That is so much funnier coming from a female.
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Prior to my D90, I owned a Row 110. The longer wheelbase of course handles well on the hwy. Very practical for long trips and large families. Off road is very capable with more attention needed due to it's size in technical sections. Drives like a truck even more so than a D90. In town the 110 is less practical, parking, u-turns, maneuverability, etc.. In the end I opted for the D90 SW (hard top manual) as the perfect rover for my needs (all 4 kids are out of the house..thank God), a great 2 person expedition vehicle with great loading capacity, good maneuverability off road, good stability on road and hwy (depending on suspension set up), and quick and easy in town. Having said that, ultimately it's a matter of need rather than what is better. 110 or D90 for me HAS to be a manual transmission . More control, less dependency on brakes (less wear), and way more fun!.
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