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D1 parts that fit Defender

I am trying to compile a list of Discovery 1 parts that can be used in a Defender (without doing major mod's). I tried doing a search but did not come up with a complete list. Below is a list of parts that I think will swap over along with some that I am not sure of. If anyone can point out where I am wrong or build on this list with other items it would be greatly appreciated - probably a good reference for others in the future too.

3.9 Engine assuming Defender is gas (efi cpu & harness)
LT230 Transfer case
ZF Auto
Engine mounts and gearbox crossmember
Front and Rear Axles
Differentials (for 10 spline use anyway)
Front and rear trailing arms
Steering box (different drop arm?)
A frame joints and arms
Rear shock tower
Radiator and shroud???

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Old February 17th, 2016, 01:21 PM
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Old February 17th, 2016, 01:21 PM
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Radiator and shroud???
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3.9 Engine assuming Defender is gas (efi cpu & harness) (different, in fact significantly so for the engine, but can be made to work)
LT230 Transfer case (need to get rid of park lockout solenoid)
ZF Auto
Engine mounts and gearbox crossmember (crossmember is different)
Front and Rear Axles (steering linkage is different, hubs are different, brake discs and calipers are different)
Differentials (for 10 spline use anyway) (all NAS discos are 24 spline, rear diff in many discos has the disc which needs to be swapped to a flange)
Front and rear trailing arms (NAS 110 are narrow front arms, disco rear arms are thinner but fit)
Steering box (different drop arm? YES)
A frame joints and arms (for a defender you need the three point mounts, NAS 110 has the BOGE which the disco does not have)
Rear shock tower
Radiator and shroud??? (no)
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Old February 17th, 2016, 03:34 PM
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Thanks - this is all helpful.
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I use from the fan to the rear axle. The trans cross member is different but can be modified to be identical to defender one. I use the y pipe and o2 sensors but scrap the rest of the disco system. I don't use the springs and shocks but no reason you couldn't if going into a 90. I use the complete disco steering system from the bottom of the column. The disco's I use are gems trucks but we have Drew modify the wiring harness and reprogram the ecu so its not looking for the security system or evap systems.
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I use from the fan to the rear axle. The trans cross member is different but can be modified to be identical to defender one. i use the y pipe and o2 sensors but scrap the rest of the disco system. I don't use the springs and shocks but no reason you couldn't if going into a 90. I use the complete disco steering system from the bottom of the column. The disco's I use are gems trucks but we have Drew modify the wiring harness and reprogram the ecu so its not looking for the security system or evap systems.
GEMS DI is actually much closer to 97 D90 than 94/95 DI to 94/95 D90.

What do you do about getting the unobtainium fan shroud?
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GEMS DI is actually much closer to 97 D90 than 94/95 DI to 94/95 D90.

What do you do about getting the unobtainium fan shroud?
Yep and while you will argue otherwise they are better. Still have to cut the main harness where it goes inside the truck.

Got a 50th anniversary one once from Britcar in UK. The last two came from Stephen @ Safari HP- he's trimming a different shroud but it works.
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i think the dome light bulbs ill have to double check
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Yep and while you will argue otherwise they are better. Still have to cut the main harness where it goes inside the truck. Got a 50th anniversary one once from Britcar in UK. The last two came from Stephen @ Safari HP- he's trimming a different shroud but it works.
Actually they are pretty much the same. Good to know on trimming the shroud. Should help a lot of people. I have been suggesting what you have been doing since 90/110 were about to become legal. Makes great sense. The DI/RRC drivetrain is pretty good and the price of rust buckets makes it a vey attractive swap. Glad you got it figured out. Still not sure why you cut the harness though. :-)
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The brake discs and calipers are the same on the rear of D1 and D90. Only the front is different.

D1 ABS sensors are the same as 97 D90 'rough road' sensors.
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Actually they are pretty much the same. Good to know on trimming the shroud. Should help a lot of people. I have been suggesting what you have been doing since 90/110 were about to become legal. Makes great sense. The DI/RRC drivetrain is pretty good and the price of rust buckets makes it a vey attractive swap. Glad you got it figured out. Still not sure why you cut the harness though. :-)
Take a look @ a gems disco. The engine harness and underhood fuse box and main do not disconnect from one another. Ie cut it @ firewall per my guru Drew.
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Take a look @ a gems disco. The engine harness and underhood fuse box and main do not disconnect from one another. Ie cut it @ firewall per my guru Drew.
I see. The one I parted out I actually cut the body away to get it out in one piece. LOL.
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Just to be clear...both '94-'95 V8 Disco's and NAS D90's are not GEMS equipped but 14CUX
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Just to be clear...both '94-'95 V8 Disco's and NAS D90's are not GEMS equipped but 14CUX
Correct, but my point (which may not have been clear) is that 96-99 disco I with GEMS are closer to 97 D90s than 94-95 Disco Is are to 94-95 D90s.

the 93-94 RRC motors are closest to the 94-95 D90 motors. (ie no serp belt)
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Thanks for all of the input. This is helpful info for me and hopefully for others.
Someone offered me a low mileage, good running, fairly rust free frame, 1995 D1 (non- Gems) for $400. I have not looked under the hood of a Discovery since about 1999 so this is great info. For $400 its probably worth picking it up and using it as a beater until I need to scavenge something off of it.
Still waiting to hear about that dome light bulb though. Hopefully not too many hours of modification work required to use the Disco bulb
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I think what he meant is the dome lense/bulb and the rear cargo light are the same. I am pretty sure they are. Someone correct me if im wrong.
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Glad to hear the dome light swap is a thing ... I thought maybe I was being mocked for listing relatively small items like springs.
A few more things I am curious about if anyone reads this: Any reason why the D1 A/C parts under the hood of the D1 couldn't be used with an aftermarket underdash A/C evaporator like the Nostalgic Air Underdash? And has anyone ever tried to modify the D1 center console to work for a ZF auto swap in a Defender? It seems like if you were creative and handy it could be made to work but I have not looked closely.
Once again, thanks for the earlier comments!
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FWIW, the charcoal canister from a 93 LWB appears to be identical to a 94 D90... LOL



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