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Old October 12th, 2015, 11:28 AM
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Current Market Price Stickie?

Maybe its just me but it seems there are several recent posts asking what trucks are worth or asking why their trucks haven't sold.

Thought it might be helpful if recent sales and actual prices (not asking price) were posted to give folks that are not in the know (or dreaming) a sense of the market. Of course when someone gets a steal they aren't inclined to share what they paid but might be worth considering.

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Old October 12th, 2015, 11:34 AM
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Good luck getting dealers to post their actual sale prices.
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Old October 12th, 2015, 11:43 AM
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Impulsive newbies don't take the time to read anything anyways, sticky or not. Those who do already are using the search function or Google. It would be a nice function but as stated above who is going to divulge their selling price?
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Old October 12th, 2015, 11:49 AM
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Old October 12th, 2015, 12:07 PM
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I dont disagree with anything said here but there are plenty of sales on eBay and on here that are essentially public knowledge that would help educate buyers/sellers... and if nothing else when someone posts a ridiculous price for a vehicle they can be point to this thread.
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Old October 12th, 2015, 12:27 PM
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Yep. Its a good idea. Regardless of people who are new or been on here forever. Going prices is important for a lot of people on not just trucks but parts as well. I sell real estate and prices change all the time with market conditions and it's also the case with Defender sales. People may think they're an expert and full of knowledge as to what values are but likely they're not. You can always just "list" your truck and "see what happens"...but in reality that's a waste of fucking time. If you really want to sell something then you have to KNOW the value or you're not gonna sell shit. Obviously, in the defender market prices and peoples opinion of values will vary because of the quality of build, etc, etc.... but in general, not every "nut and bolt rebuild" is worth $150K yet you see them listed all the time and they are for sale FOREVER!! Its a waste of fucking time in my opinion. Everything has a value.....and I know what people will say in response to this statement: Value is what someone will pay for something. And yes, that is true to an extent but creating a thread that allows everyone to share recent sales and specs on truck, doors, seats, etc, etc.... certainly will help most people create a listing or thread that is priced accurately and avoid everyone dumping all over that guy about how he is so overpriced, or shit like that. I, for one, find John's idea on this thread to be well worth it. Without a doubt there will still be a bunch of idiots that will continue to not google or search through existing threads for already created info. That's inevitable. But, there is value is creating this thread.

Of course this is all my opinion and I don't give a shit either way, but I would use this thread for sure.

So, with that said, I have some defender complete doors that I'm likely getting ready to sell. Front, Middle, and Rear. Getting ready to start a feeler thread here shortly to see who would be interested but thoughts on value would be appreciated from the forum based on their recent sales. The details of my doors will follow for a better assessment of their value.
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i have a database of trucks with their asking price, date posted, price reductions/increases and date sold (or really date listed as sold or the date taken offline). I also keep some details on the vehicles (NAS/ROW, civilian/mod, engine, tranny, wheelbase, body style, condition, dealer/private seller).

i get this data through craigslist, ebay, sites like hemmings and message boards.

i am doing this because i am in the market for a truck and really want to know the market.

The one thing that I wish i had was actual sale price. i have heard the market is a little soft now, but cant prove this with my data. It only goes back a few months
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i have a database of trucks with their asking price, date posted, price reductions/increases and date sold (or really date listed as sold or the date taken offline). I also keep some details on the vehicles (NAS/ROW, civilian/mod, engine, tranny, wheelbase, body style, condition, dealer/private seller). i get this data through craigslist, ebay, sites like hemmings and message boards. i am doing this because i am in the market for a truck and really want to know the market. The one thing that I wish i had was actual sale price. i have heard the market is a little soft now, but cant prove this with my data. It only goes back a few months
Whats the mean price by year, model, and engine type?
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Whats the mean price by year, model, and engine type?
there is not enough data to answer that just yet. i really just use it as a reference right now, so if i see a truck posted i can check it against other say LHD 90s. I am also not too sure if I want to give out the data.

I am working on the automation of the data collection. I started working on it last year when buying a boat. Was very helpful and I wound up with a great boat.

I think that i could turn it into a product.
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there is not enough data to answer that just yet. i really just use it as a reference right now, so if i see a truck posted i can check it against other say LHD 90s. I am also not too sure if I want to give out the data. I am working on the automation of the data collection. I started working on it last year when buying a boat. Was very helpful and I wound up with a great boat. I think that i could turn it into a product.
Just take a wild ass guess like every other economist. (I'm just pulling your leg dude).
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If got a feeling Josh could chime in with a short list of trucks to get the conversation started.
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Just take a wild ass guess like every other economist. (I'm just pulling your leg dude).
I'm looking for a LHD soft top so maybe I should just start making up and posting the data to influence the market.
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Old October 12th, 2015, 01:58 PM
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I sold the 109 pick up for 6,500
That nice 90 ex mod hard top for 11,600
That really nice ex mod 12 miles 110 for $20k

Lost lots and lots on 109, broke even ish on 90, made $1,200 on 110.
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This will be a futile effort. History shows most folks are not willing to post the sold or purchase price of their truck(s). Let alone the specific conditions determining that price.
Remain current with the For Sale - Vehicles and Flea Market threads (good links to CL ads) and note what gets sold (or pulled) and why w/in the day, a week, a month, or just sits there. If private sale, apply exponentially larger discount to each category. Dealers/builders moving the top shelf trucks can hold firmer with their asking and weather the wait. Remember eBay is not much more than cheap marketing.
All else fails, use Josh to fill in the blanks...
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i'm looking for a lhd soft top so maybe i should just start making up and posting the data to influence the market.
nas90?
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nas90?
Yes. Or a Row that has been properly converted with the cage..
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The whole concept of this thread promotes the position of lazy cluelessness. The info is out there for those that seek it. It will only encourage more flipping, and I'm of the buy and hold mindset.

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I sold the 109 pick up for 6,500
That nice 90 ex mod hard top for 11,600
That really nice ex mod 12 miles 110 for $20k

Lost lots and lots on 109, broke even ish on 90, made $1,200 on 110.
Thanks Derek.
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I feel uncomfortable to disclose an actual sales price as this is also a case of the buyer, not just me!
Can say though that all of my sales prices are very, very close to my asking prices or just are my asking price.
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