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Old April 19th, 2005, 12:45 PM
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Cross-Lander: Defender knock-off coming soon?

Got my Petersons 4wd today, showed a picture of a VERY defenderish truck. BUt, it's Romanian and called the "Cross Lander". The blurb says it's been EPA certified already, and should go in the low 20's

102" wheelbase, 4 liter V-6, coil front... leaf rear.

http://www.crosslander4x4.com/


Damn does it look like a Defender, a LOT. I wonder if it's licensed by Land Rover at all?

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Old April 19th, 2005, 01:12 PM
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If I am not mistaken, all that the crosslander is is a rebadged Santa PS-10 http://www.ticonsole.nl/santana/ps-10.htm . Santana's are basically knock off land rovers, based on the same simple ideas and architecture even using land rover transmissions, engines, suspension, etc of older models.
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Old April 19th, 2005, 01:12 PM
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Yeah that truck has been in the works for a while. It was going to heading to our shores with a 2.8 International Power Stroke diesel, but that never made it. Too bad.
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Old April 19th, 2005, 01:26 PM
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I read a bit further into it, actually it looks to be a Romanian knock-off of the Santana, the manufacturer is ARO. The closest match I could find on their website is the model 244, and the stats given show it to have an IFS front end.

Still, a knock-off of a knock-off, I wonder if the hood will fit a Defender? It's vented along the sides.

http://www.aro.ro/eng/index.asp?ce=cat24suv&m=244

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Old April 19th, 2005, 01:28 PM
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I remember reading about the Crosslander around a year ago. I believe there is even a distributor lined up in California already.
Looks pretty cool... but its no Rover.
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That ARO 244 is FUGLY!

Yes, that crosslander has been lingering for years now (at least 2 years if I'm not mistaken) and has yet to be sold to the general public. This just goes to show how difficult it is to get EPA and DOT certifications. I understand that company has been trying but evidently, even though they are the actual manufacturer and I'm assuming they have a lot of budget and resources devoted to this, they are still not successful.

Hhmmm, those "Legally Importing a D110" threads come to my mind...LOL
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From CBS Marketwatch last month:

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) - After several false starts, a Miami-based company is set to meet next week with Romaniaís new reformist government in a bid to resolve roadblocks encountered in bringing a Romanian-made off-road vehicle into the U.S. market.
Cross Lander USA founder John Perez planned to begin importing the rugged "sports recreation vehicle" this spring, but pushed the U.S. launch back to this coming fall due to bureaucratic wrangling. The company also is seeking a three-year waiver in the U.S. to allow sales of the 4X4 vehicle without airbags.
Claiming local officials in Romania are stymieing the U.S. rollout through extortion demands, Perez is scheduled to meet March 2 with representatives of newly elected Prime Minister Calin Popescu Tariceanu's government.
"Unless we do it the way [local barons] want us to, they shut down the power sources," said Perez, whose claims drew no comment from the Romanian Embassy in Washington. "We are cautiously optimistic the new government will help us resolve this local corruption problem."
The talks also will aim to resolve an ongoing contract dispute over payments for a government-owned factory Cross Lander bought two years ago.
A tough road
Perez, whose auto industry career spans 30 years mostly running dealerships, first started distributing the Romanian-made ARO vehicles in 1999 through his newly formed company Lacaro Auto. From 1999 to 2001, Lacaro sold about 800 AROs through dealerships mostly in Latin America.
After that, Perez struck a deal with Kia Motors to build a new assembly plant in Brazil, and that's when he formed Cross Lander USA. During the push to build that factory, Cross Lander bought the entire ARO operation from the Romanian government in 2003.
As Romaniaís national automaker, ARO had a half-century track record of producing a military line of burly, four-wheel drive vehicles with diesel engines.
Priced at around $20,000, the Cross Lander is a more general-use vehicle aimed at serious off-road enthusiasts out for backcountry adventure rides. It's a breed in between the typical SUV, whose owners rarely engage their four-wheel drive, and the lumbering Hummer, with its lofty price tag, poor reliability and low gas mileage.
"Off-roaders, hunters, fishermen and campers will find the vehicle fits their needs in the SRV segment at a price substantially less than those luxury vehicles that claim to be off-road vehicles," said Cross Lander General Manager Bill Goetze.
Uncertain prospects
Industry watchers are decidedly mixed on the prospects, however. How reliable can it really be? Will it succeed at a time when consumer appetite for SUVs is slipping? Are image-conscious SUV buyers willing to go low-end?
For starters, Eastern Europe has a history of producing unreliable cars. (Remember the Yugo?) But the Cross Lander comes with what looks to be a more solid pedigree.
"There's really not too much to be concerned about regarding quality issues," said Mike Chung, Edmunds.com market and pricing analyst. "This isn't some fly-by-night company. People have owned these vehicles for decades in Romania, and they're still running strong."
If and when the vehicle finally makes its way to the United States, there will be some changes, like a four-liter, V-6 gasoline engine instead of the diesel, although a diesel-powered version could gain traction down the road.
The Cross Lander produces 207 horsepower with 238 pounds of maximum torque, while logging a respectable 17 miles to the gallon in the city and 22 on the highway. The Hummer H1, by comparison, flirts with single digits when it comes to fuel economy.
"No frills, no nonsense," Chung said. "It's cheap enough that you can buy it for the weekend, take it to the desert or the mountains, thrash it and not care if it gets dirty. I can see the attraction."
Joe Wiesenfelder, senior editor at Cars.com, wasn't nearly as convinced as he pointed out that waning demand for truck-based SUVs could hinder sales. "The Cross Lander can definitely compete in the showroom, but it's unlikely to compete in the U.S. market as a whole," he said.
Wiesenfelder added that American buyers' preference for upper-scale interiors could be a headwind. "It's hard to tell if the lack of amenities would hamstring a more affordable truck like the Cross Lander 244X."
Political roadblocks and the questionable domestic appetite for the vehicle aside, the Cross Landerís fate in America may now rest with federal regulators.
The company petitioned the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration on Jan. 25 for a three-year exemption from air bag requirements, claiming economic hardship
In a letter to NHTSA, Cross Lander said the regulatory relief is needed to begin U.S. sales in 2005 and "generate a cash flow that can support the company's continued existence."
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lose the double headlights then I might be interested
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