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Old August 27th, 2012, 10:08 AM
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Cottonmouth snake bite

One of my two 5 month old labs was bitten by a Cottonmouth late yesterday afternoon. He took a full blast of venom so I took him to the animal hospital and they have started him on a combination of anti-histamine and hydrotherapy.

In the past, vets would recommend a steriod cycle to treat a snake bite on a dog, but the vet at the animal hospital said that is a thing of the past. Does anyone here have any knowledge of treating a snake bite on a dog that is under 6 months of age?
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Old August 27th, 2012, 10:12 AM
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One of my dogs (a 50lb beagle-coonhound mix) was bit by a copperhead on his back leg almost 2 years ago and they treated him the same way, no steroids. He was about 2 years old at the time. He recovered but does still have the dead skin/dark marks from the bite marks.
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Old August 27th, 2012, 10:13 AM
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Sorry, it was a Copperhead, not a Cottonmouth.
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Old August 27th, 2012, 10:18 AM
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Sorry, it was a Copperhead, not a Cottonmouth.
Did you see the snake? Only reason I ask is whether you know if it was an adult or baby. Luckily for my pooch, he was bit by an adult and therefore took on less venom.
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Old August 27th, 2012, 10:27 AM
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I saw it. It was a full grown Copperhead about two and a half feet long. We were walking next to a natural spring and I jumped across and the dog followed. I looked back and saw the snake in the middle of the stream. I called the dog to me, but he could tell I was distressed and went back to the other side of the stream where he knew it was safe and in the process he stepped directly on top of the snake.

I wasn't expecting a snake to be in that stream because it is ice cold water, but I was obviously wrong. To make it worse, I didn't have a shotgun or machete with me to kill the snake and I usually carry one of the two everytime I'm at the farm.

Vet said he's starting to put weight on that foot, but it's still swollen. He's starting to act like himself again as well.
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Old August 27th, 2012, 10:54 AM
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I had a brittany get bitten on the muzzle by a copperhead a few years ago. I think the vet just ave him benedryll and sent him home. He was completely fine 8 hours later.
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We have killed a couple large copperheads on the farm this summer and I have a 4mos old puppy thats into everything and not the most obediant. Stresses me out every time we leave the yard.
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Old August 27th, 2012, 11:54 AM
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We vaccinate our dogs for rattlesnake. My rancher-buddy's dogs all seem to get bitten at one time or another and he says the vaccination really helps. I would imagine you can do the same for copperheads.

As a funny aside, I was bitten by a rattlesnake once... in the thumb! ha,ha.
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Old August 27th, 2012, 11:58 AM
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Aren't those vaccinations about $600 a pop?
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My Gal's a vet, I'll ask. I think its a couple shots like 6 mos. apart. I can't imagine they cost that much but we'll see.
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Sorry, it was a Copperhead, not a Cottonmouth.
Just an fyi, copperhead and cottonmouth are closely related. Two different species from the same genus. If your snake was in the water, it probably was a cottonmouth.
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It was a Copperhead. I'm positive on that. We have a lot of ponds so I kill about 30 or 40 Water Moccasins a year on our farm and I know the difference between the two. I don't seem too many Copperheads. I didn't think that Copperheads liked water, but this one was in the stream. I could have startled the snake into the stream. I apparently walked over the snake first and I'm lucky I didn't get my own ass bitten.

When I say we have a lot of snakes on our property, I mean we have A LOT OF SNAKES. In the early spring I ride around in my Gator and shoot them when they're sunning on the edge of the pond in the morning. I think we killed 25 in one day back in March.
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Benadryl is what i've always been told; for an adult dog adult dosage (people dosage)

Not sure for a pup but wouldn't expect much different
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My wife is a vet and advises that treatment is correct. The animals age and general health determine weather to use drugs or not.
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Well, the scoop from my Gal is the vaccination is for western diamondback with effectiveness to some degree on any of the rattlesnake species, about $30 a pop, 2 doses within about a month then once per year. Problem is copperhead and cottonmouth aren't rattlesnakes so she doesn't know if it would have any benefit or not.
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Old August 27th, 2012, 08:25 PM
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Treatment was right on. Hope your dog is OK.

As far as vaccination, it does absolutely NOTHING, for rattlesnake bites, or any other snake. The company that makes and sells the vaccine, would have you believe otherwise. There is no data whatsoever to back up the claim that it does anything except cost you money and cause your dog discomfort.

As an aside, I would be willing to bet that many of the snakes you kill on your property are harmless water snakes, though I don't doubt you have both copperheads and cottonmouths on your property as well.
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Copperheads are also more aggressive.
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I know the difference between a water moccasin and a water snake.

Dogs leg is swollen twice the normal size from the hip down. He's coming home today.
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Snake bite

All the best on recovery of your friend.
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