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Convert Nas 90 to 130 8 30.77%
Buy a import 130 8 30.77%
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Old November 23rd, 2015, 05:46 PM
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Josh, if your D90 is in great shape I would not use it as a base, and I'd hold off on the LS conversion. I'd keep the D90 (as-is) until a time you have your dilemma sold and then decide to sell or keep at that time, but I vote keep

But for the 130, buy the cheapest land rover that meets the bill, mainly for the title and then convert that to a 130. I don't think the has title is meaningful once you convert it since so much changes. I imagine this is the cheapest petrol D90 you can get you hands on and import.
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Old November 23rd, 2015, 06:04 PM
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Would the NAS title give him much more legal carte blanche to convert? Starting with a new & more hefty galvanized 130 frame, perhaps? If that's the case, then maybe a wrecked NAS title instead of sacrificing a valuable NAS 90?
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I really want a 130 double cab which is pretty much unuptanium with without spending 100k and I also have to deal with California DMV. So converting I think is the best way. Maybe not the cheapest, but the easiest.
Nope...

I think mine might be at the registered 2-years in WA mark this month.
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You went to an extreme level of components on the conversion though.
True dat. Hind site....
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Old November 23rd, 2015, 11:14 PM
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After having seen your truck last year in Portland, I'd say leave it alone (and go LS) and get a trailer. Match it up even (because I know you're that detail oriented) like that tribute truck that's for sale right now. Those trailers are way capable and it's not likely that you're going to do any serious wheeling with all the fam and gear on the way someplace, but rather head out from base camp. The trailer can hold the fort, heck, it can BE the fort! Mount a second RTT on it or have part of it be the wife's kitchen sink that she insists on bringing. That way you are more versatile and agile for the fun stuff. Plus, you can't even know how much more you'll love your ST 90 until you go LS. Possible game changer. But then you still have options to swap it back and keep the components for a separate build or a conversion, albeit way more work.

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Dunno... I'd be personally tempted to go for it if you have the time and funds to do it yourself (farming out some stuff of course).
You would end up with a no shit NAS /CA registered 130.. Which is kinda special.

If I were to approach this project personally I would buy one of the nene overland Lhd 130's and strip it in England, sell the motor, frame (it's a tdci puma) and bulk head and container it as parts which it would be. That would give you 85% of all the bits you need or need to modify to work with a NAS truck and wiring.
Figure 17,000 for the donor.
A could of k to ship and what ever you can sell off to offset it (the mentioned frame, motor, and bulkhead would bring some bucks in the USA, not to mention the NAS bits you don't need... You "may" even break even there.. Maybe but probably not.

I would keep the v8, if I were you then do the conversion or vice versa I have no idea on CA regulations but it's better to do it in stages than in a Big Bang. IMHO..

Now that I say this I should probably do exactly that
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If I were to approach this project personally I would buy one of the nene overland Lhd 130's and strip it in England, sell the motor, frame (it's a tdci puma) and bulk head and container it as parts which it would be. That would give you 85% of all the bits you need or need to modify to work with a NAS truck and wiring.
Figure 17,000 for the donor.
A could of k to ship and what ever you can sell off to offset it (the mentioned frame, motor, and bulkhead would bring some bucks in the USA, not to mention the NAS bits you don't need... You "may" even break even there.. Maybe but probably not.
I wish you luck with that plan of action
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I wish you luck with that plan of action
You mean there's a reason there are too few 130's roaming around and they demand pretty pennies?
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Old November 24th, 2015, 05:11 PM
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Not convinced that it's unobtanium.
The roof is unique. Guessing it uses normal HCPU parts to close the end of the cab.
The PU bed is unique as is chassis.
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I wish you luck with that plan of action
Bad plan?

Frankly I thought it was within the rules since you are not bringing the..

Chassis,
bulkhead,
engine,
and transmission
(Those get sold off)


Basically you are importing parts for a 130.. But not a knock down kit.

Which would be built on a donor 90, using a new
Chassis cab and bed..

Then reuse the ..

Bulkhead
Engine &
Transmission

Bad plan?
I really curious since you can purchase the whole thing and use/sell what you need or don't..

In my hypothetical world it would be a 3.9 v8 NAS 130...
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Yes technically within the law.

Unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world and US Customs under the Obama administration's tenure has been far over reaching the letter of the law.

Have you followed what has happened to others like Mark @ Himalaya when they have shipped new take off/disassembled trucks in as parts ?

I had a California client who had a rolling 110 body on a brand new galv chassis seized by a customs officer. I made it clear to dot that I could either ship the body disassembled or assembled sitting on a chassis with axles under it for ease of shipping. The response was a roller was fine go ahead and ship it.

Upon arrival, the conversation went like this
Me "why did you seize this, I got advance permission/thumbs up from import division @ DOT"
Customs officer " I know what the intended use is and that's not legal"
me " its certainly is, and I provided you an email from the chief of the import division @ DOT telling me I was good to go BEFORE I SHIPPED IT"
officer " that may be but my job is to stop the illegal use of imported goods "
me "what illegal use, this is a perfectly legal shipment?"
officer " Mr Crowther I have made the decision to seize this shipment and have my supervisors backing"
me "fine, I'll wait for the seizure letter from FF&P but expect a fight on this one"
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Why not buy a 130, modify to your liking, and sell your NAS? California and most prices the only reasons?
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Interesting.. And troubling too ..
I was thinking of no chassis import.
Well I don't think I've played my hand since I'm not doing it anytime soon.
UD you'll have to convert me to 300tdi as soon as the v8 gives out, anyway in the 90.
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UD you'll have to convert me to 300tdi as soon as the v8 gives out, anyway in the 90.
Sure thing Robert, did one for Johan today, on a 130 no less.
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UD did you ever figure out how to open that rear hatch?? I guess you did somehow as the engine is out. Just curious. Had me stumped.
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UD did you ever figure out how to open that rear hatch?? I guess you did somehow as the engine is out. Just curious. Had me stumped.
Latch was jammed on purpose from the inside. Getting the engine out of the back was a feat of engineering.
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I've ordered this as an attempt to address the 110 vs LR3 vs RRC vs trailer/rtt discussion in our house:
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Travelling with my younger wife, 11 year old son, 14 year old nieces and a 100lb Swissie. Going behind the LR3 for a trip to Yellowstone next summer, and behind the RR County for the east coast off-road events.
Our experience with a RTT in the Oz was fun, but kind of difficult say, if we wanted to catch sunrise at Uluru.
Seems to me a ROW 110 would be a less expensive platform to build on, and still wheelable.
What about making it a double cab with a hi-cap bed for capacity
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There was a guy earlier this month that posted a td5 130 for sale in Canada. Maybe he'll deliver it to you and sell it to you as parts. Use what you need and sell what you don't? His user name is Kurt and last post was early November. Sorry can't get the link to post.
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