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Old August 31st, 2016, 06:02 PM
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Check out these prices

I used my iPad to look up the number of my local jeep dealer to order a part. While I was on hold I was checking out their web page....north of $50,000?

Pic is a little blurry, but they are:

$51,190
$49,695
$51,190

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Old August 31st, 2016, 06:08 PM
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Yep. Rubicon 4 door.

Seems like nothing is inexpensive anymore.
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Old August 31st, 2016, 06:49 PM
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Start throwing mopar genu-whine gear from suspension fenders winches etc and you can add a bunch of $$$ to the base price
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Old August 31st, 2016, 06:53 PM
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even more impressive is the resale.. these things hold their value surprisingly well.
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Old August 31st, 2016, 06:55 PM
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Car prices have gotten out of hand no doubt. My Dad bought a new loaded Tahoe in 2000 for 33k...he's driven the hell out of it and its about done. Definately got his money's worth. But the comparable (if you can call it that) replacement is now 72K. 118% increase.
But as long as people keep buying them, they will keep pushing north. in 15 years a Tahoe will be 100K+ vehicle if the trend continues.
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Old August 31st, 2016, 07:01 PM
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Land Rovers are not that much more expensive than others...
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Old August 31st, 2016, 07:11 PM
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IDK, when an optioned Range Rover Sport is six figures (and I'm not talking about the full size RR nor the RRS SVR), it makes you think prices are whacko. Plus, the LR4 base is about where the RRC was new, it does make my head spin...


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Old August 31st, 2016, 08:03 PM
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This trend has been going on for a while... my mother's 1983 Saab 900s was $13,000 - a 1993 900s was $26,000. 100% increase; same car*.

* sure, they added airbags and ABS, but not much else was different.

If a design lasts for more than 5 years now, people complain.
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Old August 31st, 2016, 08:27 PM
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Build Sheet on my 1999 Toyota 4Runner V6 SR5 4x4 5 speed manual was $29,900 in 1999, a new 2016 Toyota 4runner SR5 is $36,670.

Adjusted for Inflation, the $29,900 4Runner in 1999 would cost $43,189.35 today. So it's cost in todays dollars went down $6,519.35 and yet they are all still built in Japan.
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It is very frustrating. My daily is a 2000 Suburban that I want to keep going. A replacement is 75 plus... When this one dies I will probably buy a used suburban.
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Old August 31st, 2016, 09:22 PM
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Build Sheet on my 1999 Toyota 4Runner V6 SR5 4x4 5 speed manual was $29,900 in 1999, a new 2016 Toyota 4runner SR5 is $36,670.

Adjusted for Inflation, the $29,900 4Runner in 1999 would cost $43,189.35 today. So it's cost in todays dollars went down $6,519.35 and yet they are all still built in Japan.
I bet soon enough Toyota will up their price. You're right, they're way under similar vehicle prices. How sad is it that I'm thinking $37,000 for a new vehicle is a deal 😄
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It is very frustrating. My daily is a 2000 Suburban that I want to keep going. A replacement is 75 plus... When this one dies I will probably buy a used suburban.
X2! My work F250 has 267K miles on it and I need to replace it soon but can't afford a new one when they are pushing up to the 60-70K mark. Hell, I can't afford a friggen' used one!
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It is very frustrating. My daily is a 2000 Suburban that I want to keep going. A replacement is 75 plus... When this one dies I will probably buy a used suburban.
Love my 04 Burb. Just towed our 26' travel trailer from Dallas to LA and a few stops in between with 3 kids n 3 dogs. 160k miles on the odometer. It's probably only worth 5k, but runs like a champ. We will not be able to replace it with a new one...just ridiculous
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It is very frustrating. My daily is a 2000 Suburban that I want to keep going. A replacement is 75 plus... When this one dies I will probably buy a used suburban.
I'm a big fan of buying $100k car....*after* some idiot paid that and it's fully depreciated . Just can't be afraid to turn a wrench, but working on a modern car is nice mainly because I don't have mud, grease, and grime falling on me from every angle whilst I'm wrenching.
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I'm a big fan of buying $100k car....*after* some idiot paid that and it's fully depreciated . Just can't be afraid to turn a wrench, but working on a modern car is nice mainly because I don't have mud, grease, and grime falling on me from every angle whilst I'm wrenching.


IDK about full depreciation, but enough that you still have some warrantee left, as well as being willing to do some wrenchin'


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IDK about full depreciation, but enough that you still have some warrantee left, as well as being willing to do some wrenchin'
I should have clarified, I meant a "non-British" ride....preferably German. Speaking of German...I know a little German - he's sitting right over there --->
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I should have clarified, I meant a "non-British" ride....preferably German. Speaking of German...I know a little German - he's sitting right over there --->



LOL! Speaking of Germans, I've found MB 2-3 yr old off lease cars, the best deals, at least at Manheim.


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Car prices have gotten out of hand no doubt. My Dad bought a new loaded Tahoe in 2000 for 33k...he's driven the hell out of it and its about done. Definately got his money's worth. But the comparable (if you can call it that) replacement is now 72K. 118% increase. But as long as people keep buying them, they will keep pushing north. in 15 years a Tahoe will be 100K+ vehicle if the trend continues.
I'm in the same boat. 2002 we bought a suburban for $25 cash out the door on the last day of August. Now we're just ready for something different/new after 14 years but $60k feels more painful than I recall $25k did 14 years ago. It seems to me there is no budging at the dealerships either. It's like they have no room to play which understandable with all the shit the manufacturers are/have gone through with massive recalls and new regulation. Ridiculous. ------ Follow up post added September 1st, 2016 08:15 AM ------
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I'm a big fan of buying $100k car....*after* some idiot paid that and it's fully depreciated . Just can't be afraid to turn a wrench, but working on a modern car is nice mainly because I don't have mud, grease, and grime falling on me from every angle whilst I'm wrenching.
But it's not just the wrenching cause things just wear out. After raising 3 kids and half the neighborhood the interior has seen better days. Everything works but like my 15yo says.. "this back seat looks like a ball sack".
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On the flip side of this though, there are some really great low cost, entry level cars with a fair amount of tech in them.

You can have an inexpensive daily driver and something really cool in your garage....
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Wife and I are about to buy two used cars/SUV/Truck and get rid of our current rides. The prices really are freaking stupid. As stated earlier, Tahoe's and Burb's are $70K.........my threshold for a vehicle has pretty much always been around $35K at the very most. It's tough to get much for that price in today's market.
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