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Old January 25th, 2008, 07:37 PM
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Hey, could someone photoshop a NAS soft top in a beige or tan? Roverporn might satisfy me for a while
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Old January 25th, 2008, 10:36 PM
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Well,

Under pressure from other half, we went from Chawton White to Zermatt Silver. But I totally agree with Mike, if you elect to go that route, you are opening a can of worm. There is no end to this. In my case I was taking the bulkhead out for galvanizing, the electrical was shot; so it was not so much of a deal. But if you want to do it right it is allot of work by yourself or others.
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Old January 25th, 2008, 10:55 PM
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Having done many, my advice is don't do it.

If you plan for resale down the road a custom color is usually the kiss of death and the costs to do a correct full color change (and even just the paint costs and time if you DIY) are out the window. There are tons of things that will come up that you aren't thinking about and it will end up a huge project.

Just my.02 after doing dozens.



Man I finally can agree, its hard to do after what you did with the BR. I am maybe to much of a purist. Leave them the way they came. I dont care about ROW trucks, but the NAS trucks are special. It was our one chance at a Defender and regardless of what anyone says they are important in the history of Land Rover. Leave it the way it came. Its not a matter of cost or resale. And like the ECR man says to even do something the right takes a lot of time and money.. If you cant be happy with Alpine White AA Yellow Arles Blue Beluga Black Conniston Green the two (three?) Reds Willow Green well i just dont know? I hate seeing these things chopped up and stupified. Leave them the way they came, preserve them. Its hard for me to do anything to mine, I could easily take it back to stocker in an afternoon. A stock Defender is a wonderful thing. No more soap box...
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Old January 25th, 2008, 11:09 PM
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Under pressure from other half, we went from Chawton White to Zermatt Silver. But I totally agree with Mike, if you elect to go that route, you are opening a can of worm. There is no end to this. In my case I was taking the bulkhead out for galvanizing, the electrical was shot; so it was not so much of a deal. But if you want to do it right it is allot of work by yourself or others.
You know, as much as I think my truck is in very sound shape, I would be scared to start taking it apart. Don't want to know what I might find.....
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Old January 26th, 2008, 03:07 AM
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Man I finally can agree, its hard to do after what you did with the BR.
Yeah, you're too much of a purist! I figure there will always be stock trucks, and as long as you dont drop a small block chevy in them, its all in good fun. As a group, they're unique anyway since it seems they basically never get scrapped - someone almost always resurrects the carcass.

And I think you're pretty much the only one that thinks the beach runner sux!

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Jim,

That is sharp! Did you actually see this one in person or just found some pics on the net? I like the wrap around brush guard too. Looks naked without the SD rack though. The black exterior cage really stands out against that color.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 03:20 AM
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The caged truck is one I photoshopped of the CKD that was at SEMA a few years back. The other one is a South Africa spec truck. I'm going to go for the black cage, but mine will have an ARB.

I think its close enough to Alpine White (its still white-ish!) to keep the NAS familial resemblance, but gives a little more "LR Heritage" look.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 07:49 AM
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If you want a posted NAS 110 registry I would be happy to host it.
Sure Mike - I've been keeping it on a thread here since starting it recently, but I'm sure it would get more exposure on your site. At the very least, I want to tie a number to a sighting date, or a major piece of data like a conversion. Ultimately a mailing list or small site would be great, but I gotta start small!

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Old January 26th, 2008, 09:25 AM
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Man I finally can agree, its hard to do after what you did with the BR. I am maybe to much of a purist.
Nope, still don't agree.
I told him that for resale don't color change it, and that it is a big project. I didn't say I wouldn't do it. I'm the guy that built the Yellow, Blue and White D90... all on the same truck!!

As for BRs and SRs... there are at least 5 more on the way, and then there is the RH 110 you haven't seen yet and another 110 version I am doing that I havne't come up with a slick name for yet. So get you keyboard ready if you don't like cut up 90s because you haven't seen anything yet.

You are likely a purist because you see only your 90 and you think it is "rare". Every day I am around no less than 50 Defenders and I have been with them every day since 1994 and dozens of Series Rover for years before that. So to me they are very cool, but not rare at all. I see a 90 or 110 as a great platform to make something cooler... the best blank canvas on the road.

So nope we don't agree and I can't imagine I could ever agree on anything with a purist. That type of attitude puts on far too many limitations on the world. Remember the Puritans... they sucked too for the same kind of reasons.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 10:52 AM
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I can't believe you guys just cut and hack up those great trucks ............ ,...any 90's rollin on dubs?
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Jim I was going to guess IH Cinnaminn(orange)for your new color. Just dont go with gloss black eyebrows, I saw that in person once and it looked way to euro.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 08:39 PM
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With the '83's now available for the donor title, is there really much of a reason to start with an NAS for a major project - especially considering most everything gets tossed (frame, engine, etc.)? It certainly represents a more expensive starting point.

Regarding the longevity of vehicles, from what I have typically seen, heavily modified vehicles - Defender or not - are at greater risk of major component failure and/or abuse. The mods may not be well designed, and the car is often used harder when trying them out. The owners may favor fun parts over maintenance. The cars also often hit the salvage pile at an earlier point. Few buyers have interest in some other guy's idea of what was the perfect set-up, and when the car is beyond the point of return, the value is really hit. This can create a spiral where monies for heavy maintenance can't be cost justified as they might on a clean vehicle, and the owner loses interest like its an '82 Fairmont.

Compared with other low volume vehicles, the NAS is scarce, if not super rare. There aren't too many production vehicles built in such low annual numbers. Given there are only 3,500 or so total, it would be better for people to use other platforms when planning a highly modified project that guts most major parts. This is an age old debate with regards to cars, though.
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All that is very true, but you have to enjoy the truck and if you do not plan to get rid of it, you might as well use it. Every part of the truck is rebuildable and available.

I have posted a similar thread a few months back, as I am thinking about painting my SW either Willow green, Zambizi silver or Bonatti Grey.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 12:17 AM
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I'm sure ECR would have lots more difficulty selling vehicles built on old imported chassis than NAS VIN's. One point for certain is that a restored NAS is going to protect your investment better than a restored import - with a NAS there is a market to support an appropriately valued insurance claim if something happens - with an import, you'd have to document it and get an agreed value policy or something.

Frankly, not that many trucks get coverted into something else - Except for ECR trucks, I know of maybe 2 or 3 D90's that have been stretched into 110's. I think its hard to argue that the ECR restored 110's are losing any value.

And as far as people heavily modding their trucks, I dont like seeing NAS d-90's get turned into rock buggies, but really, who cares? These things are infinitely rebuildable. You can restore a vehicle to stock NAS specs pretty much any time you want - so frankly, I dont understand the argument from anything other than a taste point of view.

With respect to using a NAS 110 as a donor vs. a 25 year old import? With the NAS truck you get a little number plate and a cage - that's worth at least 15k right? Whether or not you think so, at least from my perspective, I always wanted a NAS 110, so thats what I was going to get!

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Cosmos scape with a big pretty unicorn on the side!

I gave it up in another thread, I'm painting it beige.
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FWIW, I'm not a purist, but unlike most cars built in the modern era, I really like the Defender more or less as is or close to it. Sure there are lots of upgrades one can do, and most don't take the truck beyond the point of return.
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I gave it up in another thread, I'm painting it beige.

Ah, that's what I'm talking about Jim! Are you going a lighter or darker beige? I'm sure it will look great. Keep us posted when it starts to take shape.
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Ah, that's what I'm talking about Jim! Are you going a lighter or darker beige? I'm sure it will look great. Keep us posted when it starts to take shape.
I mis-spoke, I posted some pix further up the page! Its pretty light, an old Rangie color. Sadly, it won't be taking shape for a while since I have so many _grumble_ professional obligations.


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So what do you have against a SBC? IMO its the only way to go.
Because I prefer the 5.0L Ford!
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Jim, it's funny you like beige. That's what I grew up seeing in SA.

If I ever paint Janey, it will be one color (other than the roof). Not sure what though
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