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Old April 25th, 2015, 02:33 PM
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Can we talk driveability?

So, I'll be putting a lot of miles on my daily driver in Florida and I'd love a Landy. I'm not sure about their practicality though. I know the gas mileage of many Landys makes my Disco look bad.

Here's what I can't find though: practical suggestions on which models and years make the best daily drivers. Which ones are capable of cruising on the highway over 65?
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Old April 25th, 2015, 02:38 PM
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First consider what you want!?! You're wanting a tractor to go faster than 65 mph! Second, all modern defenders, with a petrol engine should be able to drive 75 mph plus. My gearing is different in my diffs now and I can't go faster than 85 mph until I change the speedo out or find a different solution.
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I've been over 90 MPH in my Defender and get about 14-16 MPG. I have a/c so its not bad in the summer. I imagine a soft top in Florida would be miserable.
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Stock D1/RRC, DII's-but I'd suggest an LR3/4 or newer RR.
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First consider what you want!?! You're wanting a tractor to go faster than 65 mph! Second, all modern defenders, with a petrol engine should be able to drive 75 mph plus. My gearing is different in my riffs now and I can't go faster than 85 mph until I change the speedo out or find a different solution.
Is the fuel injection cutting out the injectors when you go over 85?
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I daily drive my 110. Primarily speeds between 15-30 mph. I don't go over 30 on a daily basis and only do 60 for a period of time maybe 3 times a week, though. The way I built my drive train; however, allows me to easily cruise 75 without excessive noise, never having to shift out of 5th(probably because I'm in the southeast and not the mountains) and still get high 28-29 on the highway. My regular mileage is low 20s because of the low speeds and lots of stops.

A Land Rover will be lots of fun to drive. If you are going for comfort I'd recommend a Lexus.
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I DD my 110 quite often as well and I like it. Generally don't go over 55 as my gearing sucks lol. MPG is what it is...
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Old April 25th, 2015, 03:11 PM
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Is the fuel injection cutting out the injectors when you go over 85?
Lol...yeah the speedo reads 10 mph faster than actual!
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Old April 25th, 2015, 03:14 PM
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...I'd suggest an LR3/4 or newer RR.
Ummmm...HELL NO! If I wanted to drive what everyone else does, I'd buy a damned Jeep.

I'm really wondering what kind of cruising speed some of the older diesel LR engines have.
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What models are you talking about to begin with and what budget? Way too many options just saying Land Rover.
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Old April 25th, 2015, 03:18 PM
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I'm partial to the longer wheel base models with bigger beds. (but that's not a deal breaker.) As for price, I was thinking 12 to 18 for something I can hopefully drive when I buy it. I'll, of course, mod anything I buy. There are ALWAYS improvements. :D
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Perhaps one of the models based on the Ford/Volvo EUCD platform such as the LR2?
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As for price, I was thinking 12 to 18 for something I can hopefully drive when I buy it.
Nope - add $25K - $30K to your budget if you want a diesel 110 daily driver.
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Choosing a dirty diesel Defender as a DD would be an irresponsible choice. There's no reason to be producing all those environmentally damaging emissions on a daily basis when you could drive something clean. Get a BMW i3. Those things are cute, spacious inside, and a blast to drive too!
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I'm partial to the longer wheel base models with bigger beds. (but that's not a deal breaker.) As for price, I was thinking 12 to 18 for something I can hopefully drive when I buy it. I'll, of course, mod anything I buy. There are ALWAYS improvements. :D
You can get a nice diesel Discovery 1 for that.
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Choosing a dirty diesel Defender as a DD would be an irresponsible choice...Get a BMW i3. Those things are cute...
He said "responsible." And I'm not even going respond to the i3 comment. I have enough on my hands working on my wife's BMW.

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I have a/c so its not bad in the summer. I imagine a soft top in Florida would be miserable.
Aftermarket AC? That a kit? And I'm from South Louisiana. You don't know miserable till you've driven a dark vehicle with no AC when it's 95 and the humidity is over 90%.
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Lol...yeah the speedo reads 10 mph faster than actual!
You can put a Discovery fuel injection ECU in it to keep the injectors from cutting out.

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Aftermarket AC? That a kit? And I'm from South Louisiana. You don't know miserable till you've driven a dark vehicle with no AC when it's 95 and the humidity is over 90%.
Mine is a dealer installed under dash unit which many NAS Defenders have.
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Choosing a dirty diesel Defender as a DD would be an irresponsible choice. There's no reason to be producing all those environmentally damaging emissions on a daily basis when you could drive something clean. Get a BMW i3. Those things are cute, spacious inside, and a blast to drive too!
What were the environmental impacts from the production of that i3?

In terms of environmental impact an old diesel running wvo is the only responsible choice. More responsible if you believe the "science" Used to con people into believe that humans have the most impact is riding a bike and shunning everything in the modern world.
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Buying anything new is environmentally irresponsible. More energy and impact goes into production than driving the vehicle. Driving a vehicle, keeping it running within parameters, is the best thing you can do for the environment. That and perhaps using public transportation for the mundane commuting. Personally, I work from home and fly to the sites when I actually have to be on the spot. My airplane get 11.8 Mpg, which isn't bad at 165 mph, but it is turning 40 this year.
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Buying anything new is environmentally irresponsible. More energy and impact goes into production than driving the vehicle. Driving a vehicle, keeping it running within parameters, is the best thing you can do for the environment. That and perhaps using public transportation for the mundane commuting. Personally, I work from home and fly to the sites when I actually have to be on the spot. My airplane get 11.8 Mpg, which isn't bad at 165 mph, but it is turning 40 this year.
11.8 doesn't seem too bad. What do you have?
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