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Old October 25th, 2011, 02:00 PM
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Can I legally import 90/110 with a tdi?

Ok I have searched and searched and cant get an answer. Someone please help me because I just put down a deposit on a truck and it has a tdi.

1. Can I bring the truck with a 200tdi because the series of engine began in 1989 over 21 years ago and therefore it is EPA exempt,... or does the actual 200tdi engine in my truck have to be 21 years old?
2. Can I bring in the truck with a 300tdi at all?
3. Is the only way to do this in the gray area by bringing the engine seperate and saying the engine is just a replacement for a 25 year old truck and they will not care about the 21year EPA rule?
4. Are any tdi's EPA certified?
5. Oh, and if the truck vin is originally gas can I bring it in with a diesel engine at all???

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Old October 25th, 2011, 02:01 PM
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Old October 25th, 2011, 02:11 PM
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Old October 25th, 2011, 02:32 PM
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i think the black and white answer is NO and the gray answer is yes, and the actual answer is maybe/depends.
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Old October 25th, 2011, 05:08 PM
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Yeah Doug your killing me over here! J/K

Give me a buzz please I would like to try and figure this out so I can get this deal done and get back to work at my office before I get fired LOL
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What year is the truck? Friend of mine and I brought in two 110's last year one was an early 84 with the original diesel removed and swapped to a 200 Tdi before it left the U.K. the other was an 84 with the 3.5. both came through no problem.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 01:24 PM
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Oliver did they just not notice or did they waive you through and said the replacment motor is ok? My worry is that by the letter of the law you cannot bring a car with any replacement motor even if it is over 21 years old and should be EPA exempt.
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Oliver did they just not notice or did they waive you through and said the replacment motor is ok? My worry is that by the letter of the law you cannot bring a car with any replacement motor even if it is over 21 years old and should be EPA exempt.
By the letter of the law you're correct.

In practical terms, will Customs agents be looking in every imported vehicle's engine bay, ferreting around for a engine serial number? - I doubt it. Try to image how that would work - it couldn't.

Of course if you stuff the back of your 110 with undeclared items or under-age Bulgarian girls, maybe that will trigger a few red flags and they will look.
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Customs gave me some grief over steam cleaning or lack thereof. They also popped the hood, looked at the EPA conformity sticker and I was on my way.

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In practical terms, will Customs agents be looking in every imported vehicle's engine bay, ferreting around for a engine serial number? - I doubt it. Try to image how that would work - it couldn't.
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By the letter of the law you're correct.

In practical terms, will Customs agents be looking in every imported vehicle's engine bay, ferreting around for a engine serial number? - I doubt it. Try to image how that would work - it couldn't.

Of course if you stuff the back of your 110 with undeclared items or under-age Bulgarian girls, maybe that will trigger a few red flags and they will look.
The only hiccup with my import was customs pulled the container because my truck was picked for a "intensive examination" due to the LPG tank in the back. The LPG was a concern I had but they let it through.....and then they charged ME for the "intensive exam".....even X Rayed it I think...like a freakin doctor's office. I think you'll be fine as long as you don't have any gypsys stuffed in the back.
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"intensive exam".....even X Rayed it I think...
Did you retain a copy of the x-ray? If so, post it up.
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Customs gave me some grief over steam cleaning or lack thereof. They also popped the hood, looked at the EPA conformity sticker and I was on my way.
your zuzu had something Rover tdi's don't have-that sticker
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Old October 26th, 2011, 06:06 PM
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Did you retain a copy of the x-ray? If so, post it up.
Ha, I wish! I'm sure Uncle Sam keeps it locked in a basement somewhere.....along with the gypsys I tried to smuggle in the propane tank....
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Ha, I wish! I'm sure Uncle Sam keeps it locked in a basement somewhere.....along with the gypsys I tried to smuggle in the propane tank....
Stupid question...but are you running LPG in it now? Or did you convert to something else?
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your zuzu had something Rover tdi's don't have-that sticker
Agreed, but my comment was also in reference to the OP's 4th Q about tdi engines and EPA conformity. There is one (that I know of) tdi that is EPA certified and was factory fitted to LR 110's in at least one market (AUS). Fun, rare, spendy, factory fitted, EPA ok...yes to all.
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Did you retain a copy of the x-ray? If so, post it up.
Vacis / x ray happens to every container I bring in, and no, they don't share the pictures of your cargo.
I have asked and one Customs officer told me they can see every staple in a pallet. He said cars look like pictures in a magazine-pretty high tech stuff.

An "intensive exam " is quite different and usually happens after a VACIS-ie you get both. This involves pulling the container out of the stacks @ the port, loading it on a chassis behind a bonded rig and driver, move the container to a designated US Customs Exam warehouse who cut the seal and unload the contents for Customs to come and inspect. If Customs like what they see after their search the cargo is reloaded in the container, resealed, and trucked back to the port and put back in the stacks so you have to pay another trucker to go in and pick it up and move it to yet another warehouse so it can be unloaded. Cheapest extensive exam I have had has been $1500 so it adds considerably to the cost of your import. It has always chapped my ass that I can't pick up the cleared vehicles from the inspection warehouse and save the : reloading fee, two trucking fee's, and a second warehouse fee. Customs, gotta love em.
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Stupid question...but are you running LPG in it now? Or did you convert to something else?
It's has an electrical switch up front to switch back and forth between normal gas and propane. I ran out of propane back in Arkansas (that was left over from Europe) and haven't tried filling it up honestly since then. I think the connector is different than the British connector to fill it up. BL: I run it on normal gas, but would run it on propane if I could just find a way to fill it up.
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Agreed, but my comment was also in reference to the OP's 4th Q about tdi engines and EPA conformity. There is one (that I know of) tdi that is EPA certified and was factory fitted to LR 110's in at least one market (AUS). Fun, rare, spendy, factory fitted, EPA ok...yes to all.
who's EPA ? You mean the Oz Isuzu fitted trucks right ? Rover never submitted any of their own diesel engines for approval here. Yep yours is bigger and better without question.
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