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Old October 26th, 2011, 06:20 PM
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Vacis / x ray happens to every container I bring in, and no, they don't share the pictures of your cargo.
I have asked and one Customs officer told me they can see every staple in a pallet. He said cars look like pictures in a magazine-pretty high tech stuff.

An "intensive exam " is quite different and usually happens after a VACIS-ie you get both. This involves pulling the container out of the stacks @ the port, loading it on a chassis behind a bonded rig and driver, move the container to a designated US Customs Exam warehouse who cut the seal and unload the contents for Customs to come and inspect. If Customs like what they see after their search the cargo is reloaded in the container, resealed, and trucked back to the port and put back in the stacks so you have to pay another trucker to go in and pick it up and move it to yet another warehouse so it can be unloaded. Cheapest extensive exam I have had has been $1500 so it adds considerably to the cost of your import. It has always chapped my ass that I can't pick up the cleared vehicles from the inspection warehouse and save the : reloading fee, two trucking fee's, and a second warehouse fee. Customs, gotta love em.
I must have got lucky, it cost me $1200, but I think they split it with the other poor bastards car who happened to be in my container....assuming the container holds two cars, not sure....the other irony is it was some diplomats Disco!
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It's has an electrical switch up front to switch back and forth between normal gas and propane. I ran out of propane back in Arkansas (that was left over from Europe) and haven't tried filling it up honestly since then. I think the connector is different than the British connector to fill it up. BL: I run it on normal gas, but would run it on propane if I could just find a way to fill it up.
Euro tanks have to be re-certified here in order to be re-filled which requires removal.

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I must have got lucky, it cost me $1200, but I think they split it with the other poor bastards car who happened to be in my container....assuming the container holds two cars, not sure....the other irony is it was some diplomats Disco!
Sounds right $2400 isn't out of line for an intensive.

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By the letter of the law you're correct.

In practical terms, will Customs agents be looking in every imported vehicle's engine bay, ferreting around for a engine serial number? - I doubt it. Try to image how that would work - it couldn't.

Of course if you stuff the back of your 110 with undeclared items or under-age Bulgarian girls, maybe that will trigger a few red flags and they will look.
Most ro/ro trucks do have the hoods opened by Customs inspectors-every ro/ro truck does get inspected. Now if your bonnet latch is broken....

I think I have answered the OP's questions- that or added to his confusion.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 06:49 PM
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No one said anything about the 200 tdi in an 84 110 but it was a diesel originally so maybe that was close enough? I'm know stuff slides through from time to time.
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No one said anything about the 200 tdi in an 84 110 but it was a diesel originally so maybe that was close enough? I'm know stuff slides through from time to time.
because your EPA 3520 entry form stated that the engine was the original engine in the truck and the customs officer handling your entry believed that assertion.
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By the letter of the law you're correct.

In practical terms, will Customs agents be looking in every imported vehicle's engine bay, ferreting around for a engine serial number? - I doubt it. Try to image how that would work - it couldn't.

Of course if you stuff the back of your 110 with undeclared items or under-age Bulgarian girls, maybe that will trigger a few red flags and they will look.
I think this is what is a bit "funny" when I see people on this board "bashing" others regarding a Puma.......while they themselves may have an equally "illegal" 110 although by different standards.

I would guess that many of the "legal" 110's on the board are not exactly that......legal.

People in glass houses.......
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Old October 27th, 2011, 08:35 AM
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I think it all boils down to the "degree" of legality you perceive. Most of us break the law every day in one way or another (say speeding, or perhaps in your bedroom in some states), yet I bet most of you will argue that it's a stupid law or it isn't the same as killing someone, etc. But if you want to look at it in black and white, it's a law and you are breaking it. So where do you draw the line.
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Old October 27th, 2011, 08:55 AM
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There is a post on here going back to 2006 when Skytop Rovers were Registered Importers and bringing in 1993 110 Wagons and rebuilding them to NAS specs. They claimed to know a diesel shop who could make 200tdi engines comply with emissions. Did any ever get done ?. As far as I know few if any 1993 110 Wagons came in.
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skytop was full of shit, one chap brought a 1993 rhd 110 tdi and they said they could legalise it and they failed, it came back to the UK and i helped the chap out.
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There is a post on here going back to 2006 when Skytop Rovers were Registered Importers and bringing in 1993 110 Wagons and rebuilding them to NAS specs. They claimed to know a diesel shop who could make 200tdi engines comply with emissions. Did any ever get done ?. As far as I know few if any 1993 110 Wagons came in.
yeah all of those claims made by Skytop were false-including his ability to federalize anything. He never federalized any 110's. They had to have left solihull as lhd fuel injected v8's and had to be 93 model year.
The lhd fuel injected V8's that rover produced that year were already epa/dot compliant.
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skytop was full of shit, one chap brought a 1993 rhd 110 tdi and they said they could legalise it and they failed, it came back to the UK and i helped the chap out.
Gabor! - I spoke to him once a while back. Seemed like a well-intentioned guy, just not incredibly astute in terms of business accumen or legal interpretation. There is always one (or more) people in the crowd that think they are smarter than the law. I remember there a more than a few people out there that would strongly disagree and feel that he is indeed full of shiite.

Without digressing from the original topic too far.....this is among the many reasons why there is a premium associated with ROW Defenders that are already legally titled US vehicles and why it is getting a little silly when you see trucks advertized in the UK for post-US-import prices.
It just doesn't happen organically!, if it did, Doug wouldn't be in business.
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Gabor! - I spoke to him once a while back. Seemed like a well-intentioned guy, just not incredibly astute in terms of business accumen or legal interpretation.
I think you hit the nail on the head. I spent an afternoon drinking at an Irish bar in Philly with him years ago, he struck me as a genuinely nice guy that was in over his head.
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Without digressing from the original topic too far.....this is among the many reasons why there is a premium associated with ROW Defenders that are already legally titled US vehicles and why it is getting a little silly when you see trucks advertized in the UK for post-US-import prices.
It just doesn't happen organically!, if it did, Doug wouldn't be in business.
Not that it matters to this topic but isn't the term ROW commonly used improperly on imported trucks? When most come from the U.K. which is considered Home Market. I am pretty sure Rest of World means only the LHD countries outside of Africa and North America. Anything RHD would be deemed Home or export markets correct?
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I think most people use ROW as anything NOT NAS.
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Chris, I believe you are correct on the ROW Terminology. Also, this thread should probably be moved, as it does not belong in the "for sale" forum.
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Good catch - moved to misc chit chat.

And yes I think we use ROW incorrectly.
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Good catch - moved to misc chit chat.

And yes I think we use ROW incorrectly.
Hey...I use ROW correctly - mine is from the Netherlands!
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Actually the 200tdi should be ok because its 21 years old now and EPA exempt... but the real letter of the law says that any replacement motor even if 21 years old must be EPA certified? Makes no sense...
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