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Old July 31st, 2013, 10:26 PM
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Is there anything holding you back from pursuing your education further? It seems like there are some real opportunities to pursue an education as well as a military affiliation; an education will make you more marketable in almost any situation.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 11:08 PM
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I'm a US Army Aviation Warrant officer. I crossed over after 11 years as an enlisted guy. My advice is finish your education first. Like a lot of others have said if you go in as an enlisted guy you can get bent over hard with little to no opportunity to go to school.

Put your flying lesson money towards a degree. Entry level Helicopter pilots (up to 1000hrs) don't get paid jack. The nice jobs open up at north of 2500 hours.

See if the guard will put you in as a pilot, take the college money, be a guard bum/ college guy for a few years and fly and go to school for free and get some beer money from Uncle Sam as a bonus.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 11:13 PM
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As a former active duty Air Force pilot and now a current Air Guard pilot I would vouch for the air guard. Join the unit as a loadmaster or aerial gunner and then get the vast majority of college paid for by the state and/or your unit.

Once you have your degree, apply for a UPT slot with the unit and get commissioned/go to pilot training. Most guard and reserve units hire their pilot candidates from within. This is true for both fixed and rotary wing units- like many have said, it's highly competitive so a positive attitude like you obviously have is key!

Guard and reserve units hire based on both your qualifications and whether or not they can work with you for the long haul, not just 3-4 years like active duty cycles through assignments.

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Old August 1st, 2013, 12:56 AM
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The Navy will let you fly without a degree. They have new quasi new Flying Warrant Officer program that they started a few years back but hey only select about 10 a year. Almost all services require a degree to fly. I am not sure on the Army side if their Warrants that fly require degrees. Most have other requirements though such as time in service and minimum rank requirements. As a military guy and a pilot, I am partial to the Navy but that is a complete personal preference but they probably have the most strict requirements like completed flight school by 30 (I believe), degree, and so forth even for the rotor guys. Also, Navy guys learn on fixed and then go rotor if selected.
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Old August 1st, 2013, 07:17 AM
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Wow I did not realize there are so many military guys here. Well I was Marine aviation and these guys are right go to school first the. if you want to become a pilot. The very few enlisted pilot options for the USMC are near impossible to get into and to stay at. I know I was one of them. Even at that you can't lap move over from it to other "real" pilot MOSs. It just does not work that way. Shoot me a PM if you wan a more detailed explanation.
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http://www.upperlimitaviation.edu/ar...phis-area.html

Your GI bill will cover 100% of tuition at this flight school. Join the Guard and use your Tuition Assistance to get your college degree. I think you will have a better chance of being a military aviator if you have your civilian rotary wing certification.
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I can't stress enough the importance of a degree. The fact is that no matter what you want to do/try to do in the military or in life for that matter, sometimes things just happen that prevent you from following dreams or the expected trajectory. And you are young enough that no matter what happens, you will have a college degree to fall back on or to at minimum set you apart from those that don't. There are so many variable in life, take the advice of following your dreams in the guard while Uncle Sam pays for your degree.

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Old August 1st, 2013, 08:44 AM
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I can't stress enough the importance of a degree. The fact is that no matter what you want to do/try to do in the military or in life for that matter, sometimes things just happen that prevent you from following dreams or the expected trajectory. And you are young enough that no matter what happens, you will have a college degree to fall back on or to at minimum set you apart from those that don't. There are so many variable in life, take the advice of following your dreams in the guard while Uncle Sam pays for your degree.

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Balance the cost and debt burden of a degree with the real increase in lifetime earnings. If you want to go into an industry that values paper sheet certificates over real experience then a degree is the way to go.

If you are entrepreneurial and will only likely work for yourself a degree might not be appropriate.
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Thanks Wolf, I heard about the air force thing, and am going to look into it. but right now i am leaning towards the guard as a AMT
It's not the entire career field of pilots. It's specific career fields. Fighter pilots mostly because they are having problems with retention. Guard or Reserves is your only sure thing way at a specific airframe. Otherwise getting a slot and a specific airframe is completely up to chance. Chance being what is available at the time and how well you have performed compared to your peers.
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forgot to update this. But I enlisted into the US Army in Oct, my Ship date is January 22nd.
Basic training will be at fort Benning GA
My job is a 15U which is a CH-47 chinook repairer.
my AIT is at fort Eustius VA
than back to Benning GA for Airborne school!
I am pretty excited/nervous about leaving but i am glad i did it!
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Congrats!

On making the leap. And thank you for deciding to serve this great country. Service in the military is what you want to make of it…make it great…and so it shall be.

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Congratulations. That's awesome! So, you're going to Airborne school. Do you know where your first duty station will be?
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Old December 12th, 2013, 11:44 PM
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Outstanding Dylan! Semper Fi and keep us updated when you can.
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Congrats man!! Have fun and enjoy your time in the Army!! You'll meet a lot of great people and make some lifelong friends...
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Old December 13th, 2013, 09:55 AM
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Congratulations. That's awesome! So, you're going to Airborne school. Do you know where your first duty station will be?
Thanks guys!
I wont know my duty station until most likely
Aug. as far as i know i probably end up in GA, NC, AK, or italy. They have airborne, and have 47's but who knows. I really hope to stay in the continental US for my first station
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Old December 13th, 2013, 10:09 AM
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Ensure you have Airborne School written into your reservation/contract.

Hope youve been running, doing pushups and situps religiously, and even rucking with boots. Youre probably used to cold weather, but be prepared for 10 weeks of being out in cold humid weather from 0500 to 2200, if not overnight. You will most likely end up in a Infantry Battalion being trained by Infantry Drill Sergeants who would rather be training Infantrymen; thick skin and fast movements are optimal.

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Old December 13th, 2013, 10:58 AM
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Ensure you have Airborne School written into your reservation/contract.

Hope youve been running, doing pushups and situps religiously, and even rucking with boots. Youre probably used to cold weather, but be prepared for 10 weeks of being out in cold humid weather from 0500 to 2200, if not overnight. You will most likely end up in a Infantry Battalion being trained by Infantry Drill Sergeants who would rather be training Infantrymen; thick skin and fast movements are optimal.

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Thanks, i do have airborne in my contract. And i do PT with the recruiters twice a week and do pushups and what not when i am home an have free time.
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Old December 13th, 2013, 11:36 AM
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I would say get in the best physical shape (running, sit-ups push-ups and pull-ups) as possible, it will make life much easier and you will be able to more concentrate on all the other stuff they will cram in your brain.
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Old December 13th, 2013, 05:34 PM
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Yea i should be pretty Good. I am quite in shape. And i continuing to exercise.
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