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Old January 7th, 2005, 11:33 AM
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Bling Master J's Stainless Steel Bolt Kits - Group Buy

Starting a new thread here since this came up elsewhere.

I have priced out the rough costs of buying 316 stainless fastners (the good stuff) in bulk and making kits similar to what MotoSource and MudStuff.co.uk are selling.

A basic kit would include fasteners for:
Rear Body Tabs
Side Door Hinges
Rear Door Hinges
Tire Carrier
Hood Hinges
License Plate

I still have to work out the details of exactly what will fit in the door hinges to get the exact cost, and SW's differ slightly from my ST, but thats a ballpark.

Now to put even a single kit together, I have to buy several hundred dollars worth of stainless fasteners, so I need to get a number of interested parties (like 6+) before I even go to the trouble or could cover my costs.

Lastly, there are a lot of other places that could benefit from stainless fasteners and I think little "add-on" kits would be a help to many. Please indicate your interest or suggest applications for other parts of the Defender.

My Ideas:
Floor Screws - right where it gets wet, so unsightly.
Dash board - black stainless is available as well, I hate all those little rusty heads peeking out.
Engine Compartment - Lots of brackets and places where fastners corrode.
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Old January 7th, 2005, 11:56 AM
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Sounds like a great idea!!! I'd definitely be interested in the bolt kit, floor kit, and dash kit!!!

Lemme know what needs to be done. I'd be happy to help.

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Old January 7th, 2005, 12:17 PM
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I would be interested but I would prefer exact replacements for the OEM type of fastner. Just my thoughts. The more OEM fastners you can replace with stainless the better.
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Old January 7th, 2005, 02:42 PM
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I'm interested in anything that saves me money!
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Old January 7th, 2005, 04:04 PM
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i was a sucker and got the bolt kit from AB for xmas but wouldn't mind having spares, for ~$50 i'm in.
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Old January 7th, 2005, 05:18 PM
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Im in.

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Old January 7th, 2005, 05:44 PM
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I'm in as well...give me the word.
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Old January 8th, 2005, 06:33 PM
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Ok, thats good enough for a start. Over the next day or so I'll take pix of the areas and make it exactly clear what will be included. I'll also give it a little more time in case anyone else wants to jump in.

On thing is, for you Wagon guys, I dont know exactly how your rear door and tire carrier differs from my Soft Top. I'll look around for some pix, but if someone wanted to post some in and out pix of the rear door area, that would help.

Also, I've worked it out so that the only difference from stock would be phillips heads in the place of the pozidrive locations. I dont think thats a big deal at all.
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Old January 10th, 2005, 07:47 AM
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Old January 10th, 2005, 04:24 PM
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I've made it a "one size fits all" i.e. there are enough rear hinge bolts for three hinges (like on station wagons) but also included is the hardware for the Soft Top tire carrier. Most of these bolts are common sizes so you can use them other places on the Rover anyway, so no one will be getting stuff they simply cant use.

I'll get the exact quote and then contact everyone for payment. It should only take a few days once I order the parts for them to come in, all bagged up and ready to go.
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Old January 10th, 2005, 05:04 PM
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Rollbar Bolts? Inside and Out?

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Count me in. I'll definitely buy a set!

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Old January 10th, 2005, 06:11 PM
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@ Eric - I'm not comfortable using stainless (maybe 85,00psi capacity) in place of grade 8+ bolts - so I wont be using them on my roll cage. There are "Grade 8+" stainless bolts but I cant find them in metric sizes. Either way, they are almost as expensive as titanium (10 + dollars per bolt). If you want badass anti-corrosive fasteners for the roll-cage, try these guys:

http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c..../category.6/.f

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I dont think the motosource kit supplies high-strength stainless, I think its just a bad deal.
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Old January 10th, 2005, 06:22 PM
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Old January 10th, 2005, 06:26 PM
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Jim, Thanks. Was wondering why they weren't included on the sheet. Thought that you had access to the grade 8+ stuff but were still looking into it.

I hope Motosource would replce like with like.... Kinda scary if you think about it...

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Don't worry, the cage would fail way before the bolts would.
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David, I think in 99% of cases, you'd be right. In roll-overs, trail accidents, etc, I bet the bolts would be fine. But we have a lot of accidents in the Army: traffic, training and otherwise, and I've seen some of the crazy stuff that happens to vehicles and can picture some ugly situations where the shear strenth of the bolts would be what counts.

With my karma, the day I put stainless in my roll cage, I'd get run up under a log truck or a HEMTT (http://www.army.mil/fact_files_site/hemtt/index.html) and tear my torso off.

I'm just going to err on the side of caution on this one.
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Old January 10th, 2005, 09:50 PM
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Jim I can get those pics of the SW if you still want them. Our tire carrier is a plate of steel bolted to the middle of the rear door, nothing like the ST... You could leave out all the bolts for the carrier in a SW version. Or as you said, perhaps they could be used elsewhere for another purpose.

I'd like to be in as well, great job!
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Please count me in too. Trying to get these locally has been frustrating!!
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Jim, you can also add me to the list


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