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Old April 3rd, 2015, 05:52 PM
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Beware of Mark Daniel of Defender and County Centre

I hate to do this, but I would hate even more for this to happen to someone else.

BEWARE of Mark Daniel of The County and Defendre Centre UK and his cousin Matthew Moore of Heritage Vehicle Sales in Leicestershire, UK. They will RIP you off!!
Wire Transferred Mark Daniel for parts I purchased from him and he never shipped them. Won't return emails and hangs up on me whenever I try calling.
I purchased a complete Defender Body, LHD Bulkhead with Steering wheel, Dash and parts.... he also had 5 Tires and Rims, 4 of the expensive Rear forward facing pop up seats, Front Seats, Cubby and interior parts to name a few. It was pretty much a complete car minus the Chassis and Engine as major parts.
If you purchased any of these from them online, ebay or in person, they were stolen.
He hasn't even cared to do anything about it and I've already seen other posts from over the years that I wish I would have seen before this happened.
Buyer beware! They have no interest in customers and take no responsibility for anything else they do.
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Old April 3rd, 2015, 06:11 PM
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I hate to do this, but I would hate even more for this to happen to someone else.

BEWARE of Mark Daniel of The County and Defendre Centre UK and his cousin Matthew Moore of Heritage Vehicle Sales in Leicestershire, UK. They will RIP you off!!
Wire Transferred Mark Daniel for parts I purchased from him and he never shipped them. Won't return emails and hangs up on me whenever I try calling.
I purchased a complete Defender Body, LHD Bulkhead with Steering wheel, Dash and parts.... he also had 5 Tires and Rims, 4 of the expensive Rear forward facing pop up seats, Front Seats, Cubby and interior parts to name a few. It was pretty much a complete car minus the Chassis and Engine as major parts.
If you purchased any of these from them online, ebay or in person, they were stolen.
He hasn't even cared to do anything about it and I've already seen other posts from over the years that I wish I would have seen before this happened.
Buyer beware! They have no interest in customers and take no responsibility for anything else they do.
Time for a trip to UK?
Not sure if Mark and Mathew have ever had a Round Rock ass kicking???
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Reach out to the local Police in the UK...most are very eager to help and know most of the businesses in town...
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I bought from him in 2008. He honored our agreement, but he's very typical of these Defender flippers in the UK in that he will over promise and under deliver.
I didn't see him as an outright theif though, so what's the deal? You wired him money and saw absolutely nothing? How long has it been? How did they ship?
Odd that he won't reply at all.
You do realize that he basically operates out of a glorified barn in the mids, right?
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for about $10,000 (my estimate) you won't go pay $800 or so for a pre-purchase cheap economy seat to the UK and fly out there? Walking into the local constabulary with all your paperwork and then going with a couple of bobbies to his business/residence will either see you get your stuff, or he gets locked up. Pretty bloody simple if you ask me. If you are prepared to spend a lot of money like this internationally without willingness to get on a plane and take care of it....then bye bye hard earned cash...simple really.

Sorry to be so blunt - but it is what is.
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for about $10,000 (my estimate) you won't go pay $800 or so for a pre-purchase cheap economy seat to the UK and fly out there? Walking into the local constabulary with all your paperwork and then going with a couple of bobbies to his business/residence will either see you get your stuff, or he gets locked up. Pretty bloody simple if you ask me. If you are prepared to spend a lot of money like this internationally without willingness to get on a plane and take care of it....then bye bye hard earned cash...simple really.

Sorry to be so blunt - but it is what is.
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We need a bullet-tooth Tony kind of fella on retainer to the Source for these kind of scenarios!

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Hahahahahahahahahaha!

------ Follow up post added April 3rd, 2015 06:38 PM ------

Sorry! Not to make light of getting the shaft on a deal that big! Definitely call the local in on that! And if nothing comes of it, road trip and the hurt!
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Hahahahahahahahahaha!

------ Follow up post added April 3rd, 2015 06:38 PM ------

Sorry! Not to make light of getting the shaft on a deal that big! Definitely call the local in on that! And if nothing comes of it, road trip and the hurt!
I totally forgot that "Lucky Star" is playing in the background during that scene. Absolutely classic.
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Since you wired $$, you can file a case with the FBI, for suspected wire fraud, who in turn will liaise with the concerning party or more likely their immediate sister agency (scotland yard). The rest is history.



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I hate to do this, but I would hate even more for this to happen to someone else.

BEWARE of Mark Daniel of The County and Defendre Centre UK and his cousin Matthew Moore of Heritage Vehicle Sales in Leicestershire, UK. They will RIP you off!!
Wire Transferred Mark Daniel for parts I purchased from him and he never shipped them. Won't return emails and hangs up on me whenever I try calling.
I purchased a complete Defender Body, LHD Bulkhead with Steering wheel, Dash and parts.... he also had 5 Tires and Rims, 4 of the expensive Rear forward facing pop up seats, Front Seats, Cubby and interior parts to name a few. It was pretty much a complete car minus the Chassis and Engine as major parts.
If you purchased any of these from them online, ebay or in person, they were stolen.
He hasn't even cared to do anything about it and I've already seen other posts from over the years that I wish I would have seen before this happened.
Buyer beware! They have no interest in customers and take no responsibility for anything else they do.
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Nice! I didn't think of that! That's some hurt right there!
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Old April 4th, 2015, 12:12 AM
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File Report with Police on Mark Daniel of County and Defender Center and Heritage

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Reach out to the local Police in the UK...most are very eager to help and know most of the businesses in town...
Yes, I have reported and will take legal matters as well.

------ Follow up post added April 3rd, 2015 11:17 PM ------

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I bought from him in 2008. He honored our agreement, but he's very typical of these Defender flippers in the UK in that he will over promise and under deliver.
I didn't see him as an outright theif though, so what's the deal? You wired him money and saw absolutely nothing? How long has it been? How did they ship?
Odd that he won't reply at all.
You do realize that he basically operates out of a glorified barn in the mids, right?
Thanks, I wired him money for parts in August. He delay and delayed and delayed and never shipped any of the parts. They were supposed to go in a container. Everything else made it fine but they were never even loaded. He admits that and doesn't care to do anything about it. I've tried to give him time, but he wont return any phone calls, hangs up on me when I do reach him and so does Matthew Moore from Heritage Rovers. I guess they are related somehow? This was 100% his responsibility, he charged me for shipping, he even charged me for storage on the parts.
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Old April 4th, 2015, 12:22 AM
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for about $10,000 (my estimate) you won't go pay $800 or so for a pre-purchase cheap economy seat to the UK and fly out there? Walking into the local constabulary with all your paperwork and then going with a couple of bobbies to his business/residence will either see you get your stuff, or he gets locked up. Pretty bloody simple if you ask me. If you are prepared to spend a lot of money like this internationally without willingness to get on a plane and take care of it....then bye bye hard earned cash...simple really.

Sorry to be so blunt - but it is what is.
Thanks Jonesy. I will be there. I assure you! I've already started to take some serious legal matters as well. I want you, and everyone else here to know that I do not take anything like this lightly and I am not one to post something like this too quickly for a simple misunderstanding. It's been long enough and serious enough financially and from an outright dis-respect and integrity issue that it was time to make others aware of it.
Believe it or not, after I paid for it, and supposedly after it was supposed to be shipped (but wasn't) someone else warned me about both Mark Daniel and Matthew Moore and the numerous cars that were impounded and others they told me were seized because of stolen parts... I didn't believe it until it happened to me.

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Since you wired $$, you can file a case with the FBI, for suspected wire fraud, who in turn will liaise with the concerning party or more likely their immediate sister agency (scotland yard). The rest is history.
That isn't a bad idea. Thanks.
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Old April 4th, 2015, 12:26 AM
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dude - august to now!! Sux, try getting hold of some locals in the UK from this board. I mean if a UK bloke got shafted by a VA bloke I know a few fellas who would pay him a visit on their behalf....

Where are the local British thugs....I mean he may be a Liverpool fan for crying out loud, or better....maybe an Arsenal fan!!!!!
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Old April 4th, 2015, 12:28 AM
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Ripped off by Mark Daniel and Matthew Moore

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I bought from him in 2008. He honored our agreement, but he's very typical of these Defender flippers in the UK in that he will over promise and under deliver.
I didn't see him as an outright theif though, so what's the deal? You wired him money and saw absolutely nothing? How long has it been? How did they ship?
Odd that he won't reply at all.
You do realize that he basically operates out of a glorified barn in the mids, right?
I wanted to make sure you knew this as well: so I'll put it on your comment as well.

I want you, and everyone else here to know that I do not take anything like this lightly and I am not one to post something like this too quickly for a simple misunderstanding. It's been long enough and serious enough financially and from an outright dis-respect and integrity issue that it was time to make others aware of it.
Believe it or not, after I paid for it, and supposedly after it was supposed to be shipped (but wasn't) someone else warned me about both Mark Daniel and Matthew Moore and the numerous cars that were impounded and others they told me were seized because of stolen parts... I didn't believe it..... until it happened to me. These parts weren't siezed, they weren't impounded.... they never shipped. As for the Barn.... Since I started working with him, he's been doing a lot of improvements on his property.... I guess I paid for some of it.
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I've bought 20 plus Rovers from Mark over the last 6 years and never had a problem. Never dealt wit Mathew or even heard of him.

I'll shoot him an email and see if I can get a hold of him for you.
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Yes, I have reported and will take legal matters as well. ------ Follow up post added April 3rd, 2015 11:17 PM ------ Thanks, I wired him money for parts in August. He delay and delayed and delayed and never shipped any of the parts. They were supposed to go in a container. Everything else made it fine but they were never even loaded. He admits that and doesn't care to do anything about it. I've tried to give him time, but he wont return any phone calls, hangs up on me when I do reach him and so does Matthew Moore from Heritage Rovers. I guess they are related somehow? This was 100% his responsibility, he charged me for shipping, he even charged me for storage on the parts.
It sounds like some stuff was shipped as you say everything else made it. I'm
Confused was the whole container never shipped or just parts missing?

Just trying to get a proper understanding.




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Old April 4th, 2015, 04:23 AM
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Mark Daniel and Matthew Moore

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I've bought 20 plus Rovers from Mark over the last 6 years and never had a problem. Never dealt wit Mathew or even heard of him.

I'll shoot him an email and see if I can get a hold of him for you.
I purchased a 110 from him more that 1 year ago in February of 2014 and that arrived. But in August he sold me LHD Bulkhead, Rear Body, Shipping, storage, packing etc. They never shipped it.
BELIEVE ME. I was very patient and give him the benefit of the doubt for a month after it was supposed to arrive. Mark kept saying he was going to look into. But he never called back. Said he would go over to Matthew Moores at Heritage Rover Sales in the UK to find the parts that were never shipped, but he didn't. I had to keep calling him. He then admitted that he didn't ship them, Matthew Moore was to ship them and Matthew Moore said he never had them.
I have it all in writing and texts etc.

I gave him every opportunity to work it out. But he didn't care.
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