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Old December 31st, 2003, 05:40 PM
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NVTR is a lot of full-throttle driving -- pushing sand on dry lakes, long straight graded desert dirt roads, and hill climbing over rough twisting switchbacks. Lot's of stops, throttle, slow, throttle, etc. Burns gas.

Fuel cell is a good idea. I was looking into plastic marine tanks at one time. Found a 13 gallon rectangle on line that was only about 8 inches high....

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Old December 31st, 2003, 06:03 PM
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whats the differense between a fuel cell and a gas tank?
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Old December 31st, 2003, 06:22 PM
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We went through a solid tank and 4 cans on the last 12-hour event. Next one is a 48-hour format.

Nonstop workout for the motor so it rups through the gas.
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Old December 31st, 2003, 08:01 PM
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Old December 31st, 2003, 09:59 PM
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Fuel cells are found normaly on race cars and I think most of the purpose built rockcrawlers. Basicaly its a highly impact resistant gas tank. Am I right on this??
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Old January 1st, 2004, 12:29 PM
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I have a FuelSafe fuel cell in my offroad race car. I don't know how "highly imact resistant" they are as the exterior doesn't appear too heavy duty and they are usually mounted inside of the car or truck away from any possible direct impact, but inside the metal "tank" is a foam bladder. The main purpose is to prevent the gas from spilling during a roll over. It works too. I rolled my car 8 times and not a leak.
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Old January 2nd, 2004, 01:30 AM
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what's the difference ken...between gasoline cans (red) and diesel cans (yellow?)
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Old January 2nd, 2004, 09:40 AM
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I hear Roveraccessories sells a complete saddle fuel tank kit for the D90 with everything from tank and fittings, to pump, lines, fuel filler, gas cap, etc. Why not go that route? Think about how practical it would be to have two tanks, one Aux to pump into the main tank. Would double your current on-road and offroad range. And would be safer.

Scot, EE does a nice write-up on the cans: https://www.expeditionexchange.com/wedco/
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what's the difference ken...between gasoline cans (red) and diesel cans (yellow?)
None other than marking and color to distinguish between Petrol and Diesel. Interesting, I just found out they are not for sale here in Pa.
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CVC, if you want one, have it shipped to me in VA and I'll bring it with me on our next trip.

Dave, great link there. Never knew there was so much to know about gas and water cans!

Wicks, did you see the truck at the bottom of the page Dave linked? There's a set up for you... Two cans side-by-side mounted on the back.
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Old January 2nd, 2004, 11:10 AM
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Yeah. I dig the setup that this guy has for a rear tire mount and can holder. Not sure who built it, but the rest of his truck is ECR.

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics2/DSC07729.jpg
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Thats Frank Motleys rig. I downloaded a few rear shots of it and adjusted the color and it looks to be a Rockware decal on it.
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Ouch heavy for that door unless it is mounting to the rear member somehow.
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yes, its a arm unit that bolts to the rear x-member.
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics2/DSC07712.jpg
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Chris, do you know who makes the ladders Frank has on his vehicle?
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Old January 3rd, 2004, 04:19 PM
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Rick, those are the stock ladders that come with the NAS LR roof rack kit. They actually are the rear supports for the rack when installed.
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I was thinking about adding a Jerry Can rack in mine too. I thought I would custom fab one that is similar to the picture in Ken's post. I was thinking about making it so it ran the entire width of the bed and would use the existing bolts for the bench seat and seat belts in the back of my D-90. I hate drilling into the truck if I can help it.
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Wicks,
to get back to your origional question, 5 cans will fit side by side between the rear wheel boxes, they're a real snug fit, I'd consider getting a simple rack made up and using a ratchet strap to hold them in firmly and prevent rattling.
I wouldn't be happy with that much weight on a roof rack, it would be over 90 kgs.
I ran my 110 in the Sahara with 5 cans straped down in the back against the rear bulk head without a rack. I had the spouts at the top and a ratchet strap across the top of the cans and through the handles fixed to the body capings but then I wasn't racing. This set-up kept the weight low and between the axles. I've now gone to an aux tank though because I needed the space in the back for camping gear. (see custon mods fitting a 90 side tank) This mod only gives an extra 55 ltrs though. Good for 800 miles with an 80 ltr main tank, Yes it's a diesel.
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Old January 4th, 2004, 11:13 PM
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Thanks Mike, yes I just tried that setup yesterday. Didn't think the right numbers when I was planning to put that much up top. The rack is definitely for the lighter cargo, which is very scarce in a rally.

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