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Old September 1st, 2016, 01:45 PM
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Australian #5 Trailers

Like the Perentie, these seem to be better engineered and build quality than their UK counterpart the Sankey. Just got an ocean freight quote to ship one over roro attached to a customer truck and the quote was $613.
Not sure what these go for @ auction but would expect them to be in far better condition than the majority of Sankeys. These trailers have the same land rover lug pattern and were designed to be pulled by land rovers.
Looks to be a bunch of them in the upcoming auctions
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Old September 1st, 2016, 02:02 PM
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Doug - STOP! You're like the crack dealer that hands out free samples of the latest and greatest just to get us addicted, then strings us along wringing every dollar from our wallets. Making us think...my kid doesn't REALLY need to go to college.

Just kidding. I've realized that humor is hard to convey over the keyboard sometimes.

Any similarities to the trailer in this thread: http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...-nh-71927.html

I really thought there would be more interest in that thread than there was - seemed like a good deal.

Have you brought over a Mog from Australian Frontline Machinery? They seem like they would be a great base for an expedition truck.
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Old September 1st, 2016, 02:13 PM
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Neil,
Nope, the Penman is the current UK military trailer, replaced the Sankey, many have stainless steel tubs.
How that trailer in the thread you link is here I have no idea. DOT's rules for trailer imports are the same as vehicles. IE prove its DOT approved or prove its 25 yrs old. The UK Penman's aren't that old yet.
Conversely the Aussie No. 5's are.

I have brought in MOGs from Europe but not Oz. The Euro trucks are lhd, the Aussie military ones are RHD.


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Old September 1st, 2016, 02:14 PM
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Neat. I may need one of those...
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That's a good looking trailer right there. Been thinking about getting an old military trailer lately.
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I'd be interested for sure.
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I've been looking at those and and the Penmans as well. Sucks that 25 yr rule applies to trailers as well. I would be interested in one of these! Would be far better than finding and rebuilding a M416 trailer
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Hey Doug, Not sure if you're just letting us know they are available at auction or gauging interest to bring a few over, but count me in if you are.
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Not sure what we might do just yet. I asked Matt this morning and he has 18 of these trailers.
They are quite popular in Australia so he keeps a number on hand.
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They sell between $600-$1800 (Plus GST and Buyers premium) at auction, with no real reason to why some are cheap/expensive. 2nd hand market is about $1500aud consistently. They were mostly made in the 60's to be pulled behind the Series trucks. From what I have seen, when the Perenties fetch more money at auction, the trailers are are cheaper than usual, and viceversa.
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I like the longer tongue length. That's one of the largest draw backs of the sankey and M406. Damn things jacknife in 36 inches of backing.
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I like the longer tongue length. That's one of the largest draw backs of the sankey and M406. Damn things jacknife in 36 inches of backing.
Absolutely true....backing up a Sankey is always a pain in the arse. I had the Sankey on the 130 (where the hitch hangs *under* the hicap tub), and one wrong move would push the Sankey into jackknife position!

So how do these match up to overall Sankey dimensions? Particularly from a "tub" standpoint, are they identical? Or do the length/width vary from the Sankeys?
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Absolutely true....backing up a Sankey is always a pain in the arse. I had the Sankey on the 130 (where the hitch hangs *under* the hicap tub), and one wrong move would push the Sankey into jackknife position!

So how do these match up to overall Sankey dimensions? Particularly from a "tub" standpoint, are they identical? Or do the length/width vary from the Sankeys?
Body type: Approx. Body dimensions 1.9m (L) x 1.3m (W) x 480mm (H).

Overall dimensions including drawbar - 3.3m (L) x 1.6m (W) x 1.5m (height from ground to top of cover / frame)
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The down side is they are half tonne rated and no brakes. The ones to get are the hallmark single axle with brakes
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Tubs are 4x6 pretty much the same as the sankey. Brakes on a trailer rated for 1000 lbs are kind of pointless imo.
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You need the newer Sankey's with hydraulic disc surge brakes...
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bump. any update on the grand plan to ship a bunch of these over?
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Grand plan ?

I brought one of these over with a Perentie scout truck for a forum member and its with its new owner in Kentucky.

Perhaps if there was sufficient interest from fellows looking to commit to buying one it would make sense. The costs involved would have the price in the $2750 range per trailer.

Bringing a container from Sydney into the the east coast and moving 15/20 of these to my farm and then slowly selling them off and the costs involved was pushing the price per quite high and the front end financial outlay was shaping up to be around $30k or more.
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