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Old February 9th, 2016, 06:31 PM
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Assigned VIN from Nebraska. Defender Replica?
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Old February 9th, 2016, 06:34 PM
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Old February 9th, 2016, 07:03 PM
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Considering the interior color mismatches... I'd say it's really just a respray... Probably would stay away from that one.
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Old February 9th, 2016, 08:39 PM
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Your saying it was a previous salvage non repairable truck?
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Old February 9th, 2016, 08:52 PM
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Your saying it was a previous salvage non repairable truck?
Probably no way to know without calling them. At this price get one with a VIN from Land Rover with a clean title.
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Old February 9th, 2016, 08:57 PM
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No. There might be nothing wrong with it. Only that an owner trying to sell for that price should be able to list a valid VIN and should be able to use words other than "replica" when describing a car that doesn't really look like it has even been refurbished.
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Old February 9th, 2016, 09:30 PM
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an owner trying to sell for that price should be able to list a valid VIN and should be able to use words other than "replica" when describing a car that doesn't really look like it has even been refurbished.
Many states will issue a replica vin for a truck built from parts. My state does and I have everything to build a 110 so will be going the same route. How you consider that VIN is/will be invalid per your remark above, I don't grasp.
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Old February 9th, 2016, 09:51 PM
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But that's what I mean -- if this is built from parts into a "new" truck, it really should look like it. The interior is not to that standard at all.

I was reading the post as "this is a replica, thereforea rebuilt truck". It makes sense that a state would assign a new VIN to a "kit car" situation like this if there are really no "original" parts, but a puzzle of parts from all different sources.

But then, I read it again, and it looks like he is saying it is a replica 1993...? Or maybe a replica VIN? Is there a VIN on the frame? etc....

Like I said, there may not actually be anything wrong with the truck, it's just that with all the issues these have with getting licensed, insured, and fully legalized, I'd be looking into something much more simple, or much better put together.
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Old February 9th, 2016, 10:35 PM
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As a customer of the Seller I assure you they are very much on the up n up, they have over 60 millions worth of cars in inventory, they do not sell anything needing " FULLY LEGALIZED "

As Doug stated, vehicles can be tiotled as Replica, Kit , etc in many states, this one proves to be from NE

I still remember those 4 110 seized from the cartels, later sold with state issued VIN numbers ( 1 in NY, 1 in FL and 2 in TX )
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Old February 10th, 2016, 12:35 AM
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Many states will issue a replica vin for a truck built from parts. My state does and I have everything to build a 110 so will be going the same route. How you consider that VIN is/will be invalid per your remark above, I don't grasp.

For the cost of a rust bucket ROW donor, this seems like false economy unless you never want to sell.
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For the cost of a rust bucket ROW donor, this seems like false economy unless you never want to sell.
I don't know how you do it, but that pretty much sums it up for this scenario and much broader for many others.
My yard was at one time full of vehicles reeking of/from false economy.
We got'em cheap and were going to make money and there they sit, or we bought'em cheap to drive and they needed so many parts and so much work, well I am sure there must be a few people reading this who might understand, YOU THINK!

Why is it that every time a non-main-stream vehicle comes up with a non-main-stream VIN/title some members jump to the conclusion that it is illegal?

Meanwhile back across the pond, slightly related to the subject of this thread:
Built up Pumas with galv-frames based on a 25 year donor vehicle are 100% certified and 100% legal in UK.
It's USA agencies that have chosen to interpret and enforce USA import laws to keep them out based on pressure applied by Land Rover North America who have a dedicated staff working to keep their own older products out of USA.
When DVLA (the UK Federal DMV) certifies a vehicle as legal then bygolly it is legal.
And when the state of NE (notice how it ties back to this thread) certifies a VIN on a built up 110, then bygolly it is legal.
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Old February 10th, 2016, 01:12 PM
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Just because a state issues a VIN does not mean it is federally legal or that it is legal in another state.

In fact, while it is grey I admit, a "new" kit car in my view is supposed to meet all current year EPA and safety federal regs.

A lot less grey to restore a rust bucket as a donor.
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Old February 10th, 2016, 01:25 PM
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Just because a state issues a VIN does not mean it is federally legal or that it is legal in another state.

In fact, while it is grey I admit, a "new" kit car in my view is supposed to meet all current year EPA and safety federal regs.

A lot less grey to restore a rust bucket as a donor.

Been federalized doesn't mean all states will register it either

Back in the 90's ( Grey Market Heaven ) I had a 355GTS, with EPA and DOT papers from the port of entry, bought at a very famous dealer, that I've sold to a fellow in the People's Republik of Calofornication, and he couldn't title/register it, even the car was with all the provenance, and the car was titled for 3 yrs in Nu Joyce before I sold it to him.
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Old February 10th, 2016, 01:39 PM
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Just because a state issues a VIN does not mean it is federally legal or that it is legal in another state.
Each state has its own set of requirements and process for issuing the VIN, and each state has its own way of marking the car with the new VIN. From all that I have read, once a state issues a VIN it is portable to any other state.

By federally legal - I am assuming that you are referring to it being legally imported?

I think the real issue with buying a car with a state issued VIN is with its resale value. Just as not everyone wants 'salvage' title, Not everyone wants a state issued VIN.
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Old February 10th, 2016, 02:32 PM
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Considering the interior color mismatches... I'd say it's really just a respray... Probably would stay away from that one.
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