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Old March 24th, 2008, 11:47 PM
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I have to get these wheels. They are sick.


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Old March 24th, 2008, 11:59 PM
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They are pretty bad ass. A tad pricey though.
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Old March 25th, 2008, 12:01 AM
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Old March 25th, 2008, 12:02 AM
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Nice wheels.

On a related note, I fear the IED will limit the role of LRs in future military vehicle development. These armored versions are really just expensive stopgaps, more appropriate for NGOs than frontline service. Without a substantial military role for the Defender, there becomes even less justification for continuing this platform.
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Old March 25th, 2008, 09:16 AM
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That is what the US Army is saying about the Hummvee (H1). It's days are numbered thanks to Osama and his troop of wanna-be's.
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Old March 25th, 2008, 09:47 AM
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isn't every vehicles days numbered? i mean things change technology moves on, new platforms are developed!
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Old March 25th, 2008, 01:17 PM
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That is what the US Army is saying about the Hummvee (H1). It's days are numbered thanks to Osama and his troop of wanna-be's.

The trouble, though, is that everyone can't ride around in armored vehicles, especially in rear areas or here in the US. They are both impractical and cost multiples more. When the Mutt (the last jeep-like vehicle) didn't fulfill, they brought in the Chevy trucks (Blazer and pickup). The Humvee replaced all. Something else will be needed.

Defense spending is typically oriented toward fighting the last war. By the time we upgrade all vehicles to full armor, the army will need something light and agile.
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I seem to recall that the Army planned on buying a bunch of the new 4-door Jeeps for general transport, but there is a HUGE competition right now for the future replacment.

I can't believe that 5 years ago I was cruising around Iraq in unarmored open top HMMWVs and G-wagens with not a care in the world. Then two years ago I was sitting in a HMMWV that struggled to drive with all that armor and my butthole puckered everytime we hit a bump or went over an odd spot in the road. I tell you what, I am glad we had armor though, I got tagged by an IED!

The HMMWV has been around for 25 years, so it was bound to be replaced anyway. The MUTT is back in service with the Marine Corps as a lightweight vehicle to tow the new lightweight mortar aboard the Osprey. A few years ago they tried to recall a bunch of the surplus ones that were sold and even offered to buy them back! Now a company in SC, I think Growler, is making a killing selling them back to the Marines.
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I thought the military went with a pick up to replace the HMMWV at least in the states.
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Old March 25th, 2008, 02:08 PM
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That really is funny about them using the Mutt. Considering how many were destroyed in live fire exercises or just run over by tracked vehicles to satisfy DoT before their release, only the government would now spend top dollar to buy them back. Seems like it would be cheaper and better overall to buy that new Wrangler military spec version.
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A bunch slipped through the cracks and American Growler bought up all the spare parts and started building them. I just checked their website and it looks like they are just using MUTT spare parts now to build new vehicles:
http://www.capitaldefense.com/AmericanGrowler.shtml
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At $500 to $650 per wheel, that's a mininum of $2500 for set of 5...sheesh, then there's shipping on the 53lbs per wheel!

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At $500 to $650 per wheel, that's a mininum of $2500 for set of 5...sheesh, then there's shipping on the 53lbs per wheel!
As far as the weight, if that includes the inner ring, it can't be much worse than a Hummer internal beadlock wheel. ANd for the pice, for an inner beadlock, so and get these (http://www.staunproducts.com/) at about $200 a wheel plus a set of rims (as you have to drill a 2nd valve stem hole), and you would be in the same ballpark pricewise.
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