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Old May 25th, 2012, 02:33 PM
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It sounds a lot like our house here in Rhode Island. It was built around 1860 of poured concrete with rubble fill, three stories and just a bit smaller than "yours." We bought it in 1979 right after the first series of This Old House. It was pretty much untouched, except for a spate of kitchen and bathroom modernization in the '50s.

Others have covered many of the possible approaches for renovation, but perhaps I can address some other issues specific to our similar type of construction.

The concrete walls don't allow any infiltration of cold air, so it's really just the windows that leak air/heat. One of our local meteorologists used to give costs for heating the average seven room house, and we always seemed to be pretty much in line with his figures, though out house is larger.

There are still traces of the wallpaper that they originally applied directly to the interior surface of the concrete walls. Apparently they didn't like the result, as they later added lath and plaster. There isn't much room for wiring or insulation behind the lath and plaster. I was able to fish wires for the exterior walls behind the baseboards, but it was pretty tight, and I had to use shallow boxes set in the baseboards.

The plumbing was copper, and the water is so acid that I was constantly chasing pinhole leaks. I don't think they had PEX back then, but I gradually replaced all the copper with CPVC (the cream-colored stuff). I don't know about PEX, but CPVC doesn't leach any nasty chemicals, if you care about that sort of thing.

Our house had a kitchen ell added about 1885. It is post and beam in oak. We were able to insulate that with fiberglass batting for the ceiling and blown in for the walls. The main house has no insulation.

Don't rip out the plaster. Any where we needed to repair walls we had it done with real plaster. There isn't one square inch of drywall.
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Wow you're right - it's like a living museum inside. Does the furniture come with it? I'm going to have to say that the new kitchen and bathrooms, etc. will be way more expensive than the electrical and plumbing will be for this one. Looks really cool - I thought it'd have more than an acre out in PA though!
I only need one nice bathroom and I don't give a shit about the kitchen. I just need to make it habitable.

furniture does not come with it. Besides, it would take up valuable rover part hoarding space.

1 acre in Haverford is a very nice sized lot. The land alone is worth close to asking (as this plot is .5 acre zoning).
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1 acre in Haverford is a very nice sized lot. The land alone is worth close to asking (as this plot is .5 acre zoning).
I didn't realize it was in town. I was picturing a stone manor out in the countryside. Looked up the address and it's awesome! Right across the street from the park, definitely a way wider property than your neighbors across the street, and nice shade.

I saw a mirror or two I could have wanted if the furniture was included, which was why I asked.
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Holy timewarp. It looks like the furniture has been in the same spot for 80 years.

That is a hell of a project.
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$17,000 in taxes!!!!

That will be a cool house when done though. Taking out some of the smaller trees and bushes to open up the yard will also help.
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Jeff,

I still owe you a call. Sorry. I live a block and a half down the road now. I am looking for a residence. The seller of cawley's house (featured in the garage thread) does not want to sell to me and I rather stay in PA than go to Delaware.

I like all the old trim and walls etc. I can basically camp. I want it as a residence, but I need to be able to dump it in five years if I want to. I don't want to say anything about price, but I feel I can get a deal.

So, all in, how much? Electrical, plumbing? I can do everything else myself.

Edit: I don't want to live in mount airy. The main line is where to be.
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My father managed the maintenance for almost 200 buildings in Philly. He is right around the corner from you he has many connections with contractors as well as the historic society if you need to go threw them. Shot me an email if you are looking for some work done. My father has even been able to work out some bartering with them over the years so who knows.

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Don't go into the light!!!

Holy heebie-jeebies! That place makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
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Do I get to pick which bedroom I want ? On the same street so Roach O'Brians is still right down the street.
Seriously Ron this looks like a no brainer to me.
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It has 10 bedrooms!

There will be room for any rover travelers.
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Just started lookin at this thread...nice house! I dont know how much I'd like paying 17K for taxes though.



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Just started lookin at this thread...nice house! I dont know how much I'd like paying 17K for taxes though.
That is 17k after income tax, so probably more like 28k before all taxes (fed, state and local)
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Property taxes out east are amazing. I've got a 400k place in WA and taxes are like 3k per year. That's with a voluntary school levy inn there.
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It's crazy that this property has never come up for sale before. That family has some serious history there.
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Ron dont do it....

I can see you on a Hoarders episode buried in a pile of land rover parts in dark obscure bedroom...

Plus is this the most exspensive house on the street?
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Ron dont do it....

I can see you on a Hoarders episode buried in a pile of land rover parts in dark obscure bedroom...

Plus is this the most exspensive house on the street?
Cheapest (or near the cheapest) on this part of the street.
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Ron dont do it....

I can see you on a Hoarders episode buried in a pile of land rover parts in dark obscure bedroom...

Plus is this the most exspensive house on the street?

says one hoarder to another. The difference between the three of us is you use someone elses warehouse, I have my own, and Ron uses his house and lives "around" the parts. Gives it a homey feel. With ten bedrooms he could categorize stuff by room and still have an outwardly normal appearance to his female friends until they started poking around
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