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Old August 2nd, 2009, 08:46 PM
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Anyone in NOVA/DC/MD Area With a Flatbed Trailer?

I need to borrow someone's flatbed car trailer for about a week. Willing to pay $$, or trade for fab/welding work. I need it starting 8 Aug-16 Aug.

Please PM/Email!
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Old August 3rd, 2009, 10:37 PM
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The market used to be solid enough for them locally that it's easiest and cheapest to buy one, use it and flip it. Craigslist is your friend. Failing that: Uhaul.
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Yeah, I already pitched the buying and flipping idea to the wife - she about flipped out (get it?).

U-Haul wants $450!
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Old August 4th, 2009, 08:30 AM
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What are you going to use it for? Lots of miles? Plenty of guys in OCC have trailers, but not sure they would be keen on lending it to someone they don't know.
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Old August 4th, 2009, 08:33 AM
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Heading up to MN to pick up my '55 Willys CJ-5. I've already hit most of the local forums and got flamed as "the new guy."
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Old August 4th, 2009, 08:38 AM
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Yeah got to be tough greeting folks with a "Hi I'm wolf, can I borrow your trailer and put a ton of miles on it"

Well, I agree with Tony. You have $450 of play in a buy/sell transaction - surely the missus will see the logic there...

I assume flat towing it is out of the question?

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Old August 4th, 2009, 08:48 AM
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Why not just ship the Jeep... By the time you factor a trailer, gas and time, it would be easier and faster to ship it.
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Yup. Flat tow is the way. Or ship it.



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I assume flat towing it is out of the question?

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FWIW, shipping rates are really coming down. Fedex, in particular (since they bought Horseless Carriage) has pretty compelling rates and has the logistics buttoned up. In fact, they're picking up one of my father's cars this afternoon to take it cross-country.
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Shipping is $1100 because the Willys is way up in the north woods of Minnesota.

For me to drive up there and back will cost $300 in gas.

Plus I get to roll a vacation in to it.

And you DON'T flat tow a 50 year old vehicle designed to go 45mph 1200 miles. I've learned the hard way.

Anyone have a trailer?
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Shipping is $1100 because the Willys is way up in the north woods of Minnesota.

For me to drive up there and back will cost $300 in gas.

Plus I get to roll a vacation in to it.

And you DON'T flat tow a 50 year old vehicle designed to go 45mph 1200 miles. I've learned the hard way.

Anyone have a trailer?
UHaul tow dolly and disconnect rear driveshaft?
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Saldy, still not a good idea. The Willys has 25 year old tires not designed to go 70mph, and the ring and pinion are not designed to go that fast either. I've grenaded a vintage axle once before, not to mention destroying a transfer case. Also had a driveshaft separate and bash the underside of the tub.

Believe me guys, I do this for a living and have thought through every concievable plan. The wife is already allowing me to have two toys, so a trailer parked in the back yard is a touchy subject.

Anyone want to split the cost of a trailer and share it? Charles? You'd have to keep it at your place though.

Anyone have a trailer?
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Anyone want to split the cost of a trailer and share it? Charles? You'd have to keep it at your place though.
Only once I convince the wife to move somewhere with some acreage and build the garage mahal.
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I have a great trailer, but I think Atlanta is a bit out of your way...
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And you DON'T flat tow a 50 year old vehicle designed to go 45mph 1200 miles. I've learned the hard way.

Anyone have a trailer?
My 1959 land rover disagrees. Free wheeling hubs on all four corners and make sure the wheel bearings and tires are ok.

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BTW uhaul is $50 local so you can run up and back in two days, it is only $100 for the trip.
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If the Willys had free-wheeling hubs the what you suggests makes sense.
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Jonathan,

I have a friend that has one. I sent him an email to see if he would be interested.

I sold it to him a few years ago, after "flipping" it. Not literally.
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Could put some other tires on it. this is hardly insurmountable. and what could possibly go wrong with the ring and pinion? driveshafts are coming out anyway. As you have learned, things go bang when the driveline is still connected. Living or not many of us have towed all manner of crap from the 50's and 60's all over the place, some using tires sourced from landfills and looking like it. Make sure there is oil in the other spinny bits and go for it. Keep it at 60-65 and you should be fine. 70 is probably getting to the upper end of adviseable speeds for flat towing anyway. Unless you are using a brake buddy but I doubt you will be.



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Saldy, still not a good idea. The Willys has 25 year old tires not designed to go 70mph, and the ring and pinion are not designed to go that fast either. I've grenaded a vintage axle once before, not to mention destroying a transfer case. Also had a driveshaft separate and bash the underside of the tub.

Believe me guys, I do this for a living and have thought through every concievable plan. The wife is already allowing me to have two toys, so a trailer parked in the back yard is a touchy subject.

Anyone want to split the cost of a trailer and share it? Charles? You'd have to keep it at your place though.

Anyone have a trailer?
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If the Willys had free-wheeling hubs the what you suggests makes sense.
Pull the axle shafts out. Is it a full floater rear?
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Oh no, not full floating. As a matter of fact, it doesn't even have lock-outs up front. Those were optional on the early Willys.

I appreaciate all the suggestions, but it's my baby and I will be flat trailering it home - even if I have to spend $450 on a trailer rental. I was just hoping someone local would rent theirs (I'd rather give my $$ to anyone other than UHaul), or I could exchange use for welding/fab work.
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