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Old May 20th, 2014, 11:21 PM
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Anyone have a BMW M Coupe in the stable?

I have got pretty bored with my commuter... 80 miles a day in an anemic Japanese station wagon is wearing on my soul. The 110 won't cut it as a commuter until I get the OM617 install done. I'm strongly considering just throwing practicality to the wind and trading my daily driver for yet another semi-rare, out-dated and unreasonably expensive vehicle... The BMW M coupe or z3 coupe from 1999 through 2002.

Anyone have one? Owned one in the past? Any experience?



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Old May 20th, 2014, 11:37 PM
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We just sold my father inlaws 2.6 98 z3 with 60k miles on it. I loved that car I drove it for four months while building my 90!! Fun as hell to drive but not practical at all, one person and one set of golf clubs. My 330 was a fun car but neither where great on gas the Z was better at around 17mpg, the 330 was around 15, but that was probably due to the way I drove them m's would be even worse. Out of all my BMW's I loved my 323is 98 coupe, best of any of my 3's that I've owned.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 07:00 AM
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Had a friends for a short amount of time. You will love it. They are holding their value pretty well and will be a better DD than your 110. They are quick, well balanced, and have the right amount of power. There is decent room in there as well. My friends was an M and it was a blast to drive.
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I owned an audi tt coupe back in 2003. Quattro, 5 Spd. Got almost 32 highway and high 20s city. They can be had around 4-8k with reasonable mileage.

Had decent space with the hatch and an anemic back seat that served the purpose of lower insurance and space to fold the seats down.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 08:02 AM
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I never owned that M Coupe - but always LOVE IT. It seams people either loved or hated the styling of that car. I was on the "LOVED" side. There was a point where I was considering buying one - never quite pulled the trigger.

I had a 1995 M3 for 4.5 years. AWESOME car and I think the M Coupe would be more awesome, and more practical at the same time.

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Old May 21st, 2014, 08:24 AM
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Thanks for the thoughts... I'm definitely in the 'love it' category for the styling.

------ Follow up post added May 21st, 2014 08:25 AM ------

...good thoughts on the TT as well!
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Thanks for the thoughts... I'm definitely in the 'love it' category for the styling.

------ Follow up post added May 21st, 2014 08:25 AM ------

...good thoughts on the TT as well!
I dig the TT and the Coupe, but you can get a great E39 M5 (2000-2003) for pretty cheap nowadays. Best car I've ever owned. Had to give it a plug.
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One of the most awesome cars ever! If you can find one jump on it, you will never want to give it up. I would also look for one from 2001-2002. I may be off in the numbers but I think the last 690 built all had the s54 engine. My brother has an E86 and it is a blast!
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The only reason I threw the TT in was for the Quattro, looks like you are down south so it might not be a consideration. I drove my TT as a DD year round for a few years. Imagine a AWD Jetta with much nicer features and xenon headlamps (option, not standard). It was also very capable in the rain. I like the z3 coupe myself, though it's a love hate for most. The only reason I stray from high mileage m3s is usually at some point they've been driven very very hard. Less of a concern with the z3 hatch I imagine.
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The only reason I threw the TT in was for the Quattro, looks like you are down south so it might not be a consideration.
The TT is not really Quattro. It is using a few generations old Haldex system. Quattro is a different system. Audi just sticks that name on anything AWD now for marketing purposes. It is a good system but not as quick reacting as the Torsen system. You will not be able to tell the difference in regular driving but in lots of water and snow, you will. The TT is a nice car but I would avoid the 1.8T unless you either know the history or can pull the cam cover and drop the pan to clean the sludge. If it is a VR motor, you are pretty set. If it is a second gen with the 2.0T, avoid it. The FSI has fuel pump follower issues, cam issues, PCV issues, and a LOT of oil burning issues. The TSI is improved but still has burning issues and now a lot of carbon build up.
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The TT is not really Quattro. It is using a few generations old Haldex system. Quattro is a different system. Audi just sticks that name on anything AWD now for marketing purposes. It is a good system but not as quick reacting as the Torsen system. You will not be able to tell the difference in regular driving but in lots of water and snow, you will. The TT is a nice car but I would avoid the 1.8T unless you either know the history or can pull the cam cover and drop the pan to clean the sludge. If it is a VR motor, you are pretty set. If it is a second gen with the 2.0T, avoid it. The FSI has fuel pump follower issues, cam issues, PCV issues, and a LOT of oil burning issues. The TSI is improved but still has burning issues and now a lot of carbon build up.
Will anyone ever wax so poetic for a Hyundai in ten or fifteen years?...
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Will anyone ever wax so poetic for a Hyundai in ten or fifteen years?...
Probably not

I have had 4 VWs and 2 Audis. Not too mention a lot of VAG meets and things. Like my MGs and all other British things I have owned, it is a love/ hate relationship. My allroad was one of my favorite, but at the same time, most hated, vehicle I have ever owned.


Although, this Hyundai will always hold a place in my heart
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One of the most awesome cars ever! If you can find one jump on it, you will never want to give it up. I would also look for one from 2001-2002. I may be off in the numbers but I think the last 690 built all had the s54 engine. My brother has an E86 and it is a blast!
The last Model Year they had it, I want to say it was 2001. I've always wanted one, but never bought the bullet. I've driven a number of Z3s, and they're a blast!

E39 M5s are great cars too! I have always loved BMWs.

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A buddy on my E30 team has both the Z3MC and the Z4MC. His is Z3MC is built to the nth degree by Randy Forbes (the M Coupe go to guy), supercharger and all. As already mentioned, the Z3MC is a polarizing car. You either love it or hate it. I love it, but hate it all the same as I am too tall to comfortably drive it. You should check this out if over 6'. They are defiantly Frankensteins, and have quirks/squeaks/oddities about them that are normal, but might be offputting for the nepphyte (same could be said about our Ds).


The absolutely critical issue with the Z3M is the trunk floor/subframe/rear diff ear failure: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...-mount-failure
To give you an idea of how meticulous Randy Forbes documents his work, check out the engine rebuild and supercharger install on my buddy's car last summer. Over 1000 pics: http://www.spcarsplus.com/gallery3/i...AMcD-Coupe-III
Here is the subframe mod and other bits back in 2006: http://www.spcarsplus.com/gallery3/index.php/amc
Shoot me a PM if interested in talking to him. I can send you is cell number.
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I think these are some of the coolest cars on the road and rare too (they produced less than 3,000 of them).

Mcoupebuyersguide.com is a good source of info/cars for sale.

The M Roadsters are definitely cheaper (I think they are great too), but the coupe is a modern classic.
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What do the 2001-2002's generally go for? Seems like a helluva car if it's just you and a lady and an overnight bag. And a Valentine One of course.
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Last time I looked the prices were close to MSRP of over a decade ago (for clean examples).
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May I suggest a lotus? I commuted in an elise for nearly four years. I am now fat and old and am selling off my exige S (seems like a done deal). It has a rover like quality to it.
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