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Old September 28th, 2010, 05:48 PM
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Any firearm historians here?

Any firearm historians hang here on the site? I'm looking to find as much detail about an old odd pistol I have. What the best resource you guys can think of to research this thing?

From what I was able to find, the pistol is a Gasser-Kropatschek M1876 Officer's Revolver, however, with the little info I could dig up in searching, there are discrepancies between various descriptions, and may very well not be accurate/apply with this model. I have only found one photo that exactly matched the pistol I have and it was identified as Gasser-Kropatschek M1876 Officer's Revolver. My problem, aside such lack of info available, is that this sole picture of this exact pistol and identification came from IMFDB of all places so I am leery of how factual the identification is. On the other hand, I have found numerous pictures of many other Gasser pistols and this model is one I cant verify visually from any other source.

Pictured below is the identical pistol I have but with not so much rust hue.
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Old September 28th, 2010, 05:53 PM
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http://www.hungariae.com/Gass76.htm

Same one?
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Old September 28th, 2010, 05:57 PM
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haha.. thats one of liek 4 web pages I could find with useful info.

Its pretty darn close but mine doesnt have the serial number above that trigger(?) pin. I wish they had pictures of the other side.
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Old September 28th, 2010, 06:19 PM
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what about local college libraries or history professors, they usually eat that stuff up. Try guns&rovers forum?
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Old September 29th, 2010, 09:40 AM
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Family heirloom?

There's someone asking a couple gr for one on Gun Trader right now...no nibbles yet. They might be able to shed some light for you.

I bet you keep it in your sock drawer.
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Old September 29th, 2010, 10:56 AM
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Family heirloom?
Kind of.. the story from Dad is kind of fuzzy.. either it was brought back over here from grand-dad after WW2 or great grand-dad after WW1, after taking it off a vanquished foe.

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I bet you keep it in your sock drawer.
No silly, in the bed stand drawer. Much easier to pull out and throw at someone if they break in.
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There were 2 versions of that pistol

The Military one and the Commercial version.
If you have the open frame with the Hex barrell and no serial or the serial is under the grip / or by the hammer most likely you have military.

Some were Austrian and some Hungarian ( most of militaries were Hungarian )

not so valuable but unique piece

THIS INFO comes from wifey's uncle that is a C&R collector and has nothing newer than 1913 ( except his carryng piece )
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Out of curiosity does your wife's uncle have .45 cal Luger since he is a collector?


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THIS INFO comes from wifey's uncle that is a C&R collector and has nothing newer than 1913 ( except his carryng piece )
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Gus I can take more detailed pictures of it and post them up.

This was all the info I could find on it when I was looking:
Gasser-Kropatschek M1876 Officer's Revolver - 9 x 26mm Gasser
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1870_Gasser
http://www.sunblest.net/gun/Gass76.htm
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Illus...opatschek_1876
http://www.hungariae.com/
http://randyrick.us/AustrianFirearms/pm1870.htm

This is a view of the other side. Same gun other than mine is a shorter barrel and octagon:
http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...d1e81af1846145

Mine has the markings that offer some identification but things like the arrow through the apple/heart are not in the right spot. Other markings suggest another model but not quite.
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Old September 29th, 2010, 12:42 PM
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Kind of.. the story from Dad is kind of fuzzy.. either it was brought back over here from grand-dad after WW2 or great grand-dad after WW1, after taking it off a vanquished foe.


No silly, in the bed stand drawer. Much easier to pull out and throw at someone if they break in.
HA!
It was an educated guess. Seems like any time someone shows me their old firearm, they pull it out of their sock drawer!

Far better that you hold the pistol than some Montenegrin holding your great grand dad's telling some similar story. The histiorical gravity of firearms can be immense. Enjoy its significance...

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Out of curiosity does your wife's uncle have .45 cal Luger since he is a collector?
I am sure he does, as everytime I walk into his gun room ( picture a Farm with 2 barns full of old guns ), is like a twilight walk into the last century.

EDIT: Just talk to him and this is what I got from him on Luger , his words not mine " There are maybe 2 or 3 in existance , worth millions, and I have never owned one " to what I replied, " Are you shitting me ", he responded " Go play with your new toys " LOL

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Gus I can take more detailed pictures of it and post them up.

This was all the info I could find on it when I was looking:
Gasser-Kropatschek M1876 Officer's Revolver - 9 x 26mm Gasser
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1870_Gasser
http://www.sunblest.net/gun/Gass76.htm
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Illus...opatschek_1876
http://www.hungariae.com/
http://randyrick.us/AustrianFirearms/pm1870.htm

This is a view of the other side. Same gun other than mine is a shorter barrel and octagon:
http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...d1e81af1846145

Mine has the markings that offer some identification but things like the arrow through the apple/heart are not in the right spot. Other markings suggest another model but not quite.
Chris send me more pics, I will forward them to him ( his son ) old man can touch a computer and see what he can find exactly. He was vvery convincing about no serial numbers but rather markings for the Calvary ones, so it might be what you have.

( half of his old old stuff are not serialized, but they have some funny markings IIRC )
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Cool thanks.. mine has a serial number, just not in any of the documents spots.
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