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Old October 8th, 2015, 03:12 PM
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I imported a restored truck and have spent the last 1.5 years restoring it. Yes, read that sentence again.

My budget was about $60K. I'm fully into $130K and it's not done yet.

If I had it all to do over, I would buy a truck already done even it cost me a lot more than what I was budgeting.

Finding folks to work on these things is extremely hard. There are lots of big talkers in this game. I'm not in the business. I'm just a guy that wanted a Defender. Take my advice.
I'd still love to see what your truck looks like. You've been talking about it for a while but all I've ever seen was a pic of a rusty sill.
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Old October 8th, 2015, 03:16 PM
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It'll be awesome when it's done and it will fall in line with what an ICON or Hamalaya costs...... when it's done. It'll be 90% where I want it in the next few weeks. That last 10% is cosmetic and it's $$$

Like I said, that eBay truck I linked is a great example of an awesome truck that could probably be had for a lot less than what it would cost to build on your own. This import game is for the birds.
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Old October 8th, 2015, 03:27 PM
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I wouldn't pay $28k for a ROW D90 either. I know the non-rusty ones are getting harder to find (within budget to still mark up for US market customers) but the whole reason they've been worth more for years has been the limited supply provided to the US many years ago via the NAS models, and their relative price stability. I believe you'd said you do not plan on ever selling whatever you buy (lots of people say that ) but if that is truly the case, have you looked at this truck? It's already in the US, it's North American Spec, it's LHD, it's green, etc. and still $10k below your max budget. I haven't looked at the listing closely aside from what I already said but you could consider it since it's also local. Yes it's salvage.

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He even has it available for movies in NYC................

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/crs/5252687596.html

and when it was listed here a few months ago

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Old October 8th, 2015, 03:31 PM
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It'll be awesome when it's done and it will fall in line with what an ICON or Hamalaya costs...... when it's done. It'll be 90% where I want it in the next few weeks. That last 10% is cosmetic and it's $$$
So was that mean no to any pics?
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Old October 8th, 2015, 03:33 PM
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So was that mean no to any pics?
I don't have any good pics yet. It's not all together. I'll do a big post once complete. It's been a journey.
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Old October 8th, 2015, 03:39 PM
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Buy one already done. Learn from my mistake.

I see trucks come across eBay all the time that are kick ass. Be patient and watch. This one for example
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That's 50k, our max is $35k!

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I wouldn't pay $28k for a ROW D90 either. I know the non-rusty ones are getting harder to find (within budget to still mark up for US market customers) but the whole reason they've been worth more for years has been the limited supply provided to the US many years ago via the NAS models, and their relative price stability. I believe you'd said you do not plan on ever selling whatever you buy (lots of people say that ) but if that is truly the case, have you looked at this truck? It's already in the US, it's North American Spec, it's LHD, it's green, etc. and still $10k below your max budget. I haven't looked at the listing closely aside from what I already said but you could consider it since it's also local. Yes it's salvage.

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Biggest issue with that is automatic, ruins in! Also, what does underside look like?
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My budget was about $60K. I'm fully into $130K and it's not done yet.
Holy crap! Safari HP could build me a dream machine for that. Is that for a 90?

I feel better about what Ive sunk in mine now.
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Zach, the only word of caution I would have for you is re space in 90.

90's can be kind of tricky. My DD is a 90SW and it is a nightmare trying to get my wife, 2 boys and 4 snowboards to the slopes < 2 miles from our cabin. Also, kids grow and what might feel good this year might not be a good fit 2-3 years from now. Just trying to provide some friendly advice. Not a sermon.
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Zach, the only word of caution I would have for you is re space in 90.

90's can be kind of tricky. My DD is a 90SW and it is a nightmare trying to get my wife, 2 boys and 4 snowboards to the slopes < 2 miles from our cabin. Also, kids grow and what might feel good this year might not be a good fit 2-3 years from now. Just trying to provide some friendly advice. Not a sermon.
Appreciate the insight for sure. We actually have a Wrangler up there currently and it is pretty tight for anything more than 2. I figure with a D90 we could get 3 or 4 and ski equipment, but maybe not?

We do have a Yukon and Jeep Grand Cherokee we usually drive up there from NY so those obviously fit more.

The reason I worry about jumping from a 90 to a 110 is loss of that fun bopping around town feel we currently get with our Wrangler and I hope we would get with a D90...
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Old October 8th, 2015, 04:41 PM
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Biggest issue with that is automatic, ruins in! Also, what does underside look like?

Go look at it. I'm sure someone on this forum would trade gearboxes with you. Maybe they'd even be willing to do the work.
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Old October 8th, 2015, 05:48 PM
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Can't believe I took the time to read this thread. If you have 35k there is no way in a million years I would buy a truck like this. For 35k you can find a NAS 90. You have to be patient and the mileage will be higher but it will be a zillion times better than a truck like this.

These old 90s are fun when they are cheap or great platforms to build the truck of your dreams but if you buy this for 28k you will quickly realize you hate the engine, there is another 10k, then the paint, another 10k to do it right, then the suspension is tired, etc, etc. Before you know it you will be in it much more than a NAS truck.
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Can't believe I took the time to read this thread. If you have 35k there is no way in a million years I would buy a truck like this. For 35k you can find a NAS 90. You have to be patient and the mileage will be higher but it will be a zillion times better than a truck like this.

These old 90s are fun when they are cheap or great platforms to build the truck of your dreams but if you buy this for 28k you will quickly realize you hate the engine, there is another 10k, then the paint, another 10k to do it right, then the suspension is tired, etc, etc. Before you know it you will be in it much more than a NAS truck.
I heard the NAS trucks, while much more expensive, also tend to break down much more easily. Also, doesn't seem like I can find one for under $40k in decent shape... LHD, stick, no rust, etc
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I heard the NAS trucks, while much more expensive, also tend to break down much more easily. Also, doesn't seem like I can find one for under $40k in decent shape... LHD, stick, no rust, etc
NAS truck is max 21 years old.
ROW trucks are minimum 25 years old

Age alone should be an indicator. ROW trucks were not considered collectible so they are typically used hard, hence its not easy to find a decent one. NAS trucks have been cared for.

Don't get me wrong, both are shit and share similar build quality. Just NAS owners typically cared for theirs.

No matter what you get it is going to break down. It is a rover and they break. You can find a NAS for under 40 but you have to be patient and keep looking.

All NAS trucks are LHD. Anything in your price range will most likely be stick.
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I heard the NAS trucks, while much more expensive, also tend to break down much more easily. Also, doesn't seem like I can find one for under $40k in decent shape... LHD, stick, no rust, etc
Where are you hearing this stuff?! All defenders break down. You won't find much on eBay for less than $40k, but if you look on here, craigslist, etc. and buy one BEFORE one of our resident flippers purchases it, you'll be able to be within your budget. Especially since you do not want an automatic, which tend to be far more expensive. Just look at the "Craigslist finds" thread on this forum for 100 recent examples.
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Old October 8th, 2015, 07:01 PM
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Zach, have you driven the 19j engine? It is an eye opening (or should I say closing) experience. They are really under powered. Somebody in your area I'm sure has one that they would give you a test hop in. Would be worth your while to experience it. Then drive an NAS with a v8. Best of luck.
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Properly tuned 19J runs well. Not 200/300tdi like but loads better then a 2.5NA.
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I did drive a '88 D90 but the clutch was terrible grinding and on busy streets so hard to judge it.

It is a jump around car, not a daily commuter or travel vehicle. To sort of replace the wrangler we currently have...
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Is if we compare to modern even 200/300 are sub par at best. They are 25 year old rig. Never going to be like a new one
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Not trying to upset anyone or come off wrong but I drive 2.5NA's and 19J's year around. It's just they are 25 years old and trying to compare then to anything other then something the same age doesn't work.
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I would spend nothing on the TD and put in a 200tdi once it gets here.
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