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Alibaba?

Anyone ever try to do a group buy thru Alibaba? I know it probably would be a tough job on bigger items, but it seems the price might be worth the headaches.

For instance you cut out the middleman on RTTs, one mfr has $340-$350USD listed, don't know shipping costs though. With a 1 minimum order, http://www.alibaba.com/premium/roof_...10202010030001

Others have various 5-20 unit minium orders, and no price listed, have to email for a quote. Probably the same mfr as the big boy sellers.

Is it like buying something off Amazon or Ebay or do you need an import license?

Inquiring minds and all that crap......
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Old September 1st, 2014, 08:37 PM
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I know that Alibaba is going IPO sometime in the next month.
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You don't know what you are getting when you buy directly from China. They make some of the best knock off products in the world. You could be buying a fake name brand and not even know it.
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Old September 1st, 2014, 08:46 PM
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The way I read thier ads is they make generic RTT's and sell em to anyone, they will even put your logo on it. I heard Tepui and Tuff Stuff tents are made by the same Chinese mfr. Why not a D90 tent?
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Alibaba is going to be the biggest ipo in history. it didnt get that kind of valuation by screwing its customers. All the manufactures have ratings/history etc.

Personally if we are doing a group buy id like a quad ski at 10k a unit!

http://hison.en.alibaba.com/product/...ood_price.html
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Alibaba has more money flowing through it than most banks ... Wouldn't surprise me if in 10years they'll be competing with paypal in the mortgage business ... They already do factoring for producers.

There are lots of people selling Chinese RTT on the internet. I'd see if you could figure out who is buying from who and pick a likely candidate.

I'd be interested in a low cost but not junk RTT for the once or twice a year I might actually get out and use it.
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I would be in it for at least one or two good quality RTT's.
My business partner is Chinese and has rocked out some pretty awesome deals over there.
LMK if you are seriously considering purchasing, he could get answers to questions if you had any.
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Why not a D90?
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OK, I contacted 1 RTT supplier on Alibaba, they quoted me USD$650 for a 3-4 person tent + shipping, they wouldn't tell me shipping costs until I placed an order, which I didn't.
I did contact another supplier about sand ladders, they advertised 100x40cm ladders for $66USD, but the killer is shipping they quoted me $150 for a pair with air freight due mainly to the weight. Still cheaper than buying over here.
The second company sent me the complete price sheet of thier line, looks like they make mainly recovery gear, some looks like ARB stuff. D1 snorkel for $36, snatch block for $9 etc..... anyone interested pm me and I can send the price sheet.

Tepui Tents is having a demo sale and I bought one for my 109 so I am no longer interested in making a Alibaba purchase.
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Alibaba- The epitome of smoke in a bottle and the current global bubble...celebrated with exuberance and thunderous applause!
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Slow Boat your product is the only way to keep the price down. You will also hit Minimum Order Quantity (MOQ) with China/Taiwan products.
If you can get a sample/eval unit you can test quality before placing a high quantity order. This will save you a lot of headaches.
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so much money and their logo is probably the worse thing i've ever seen.
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I think it's perfect...a smiling face. You'd be smiling too if you were him. Instead of 40 thieves it's more like 400 Billion...

It's all a huge play and all the world is a stage...ah to be a humble grip...
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Why does the phrase..."Ali Baba and the forty..." ... now who were those guys???

Grandpa always said, "Don't do business with anyone you cant walk down the street and punch in the nose."

Just my opinion...I could be wrong...
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Agree its a very interesting marketplace, I believe the IPO will help legitimize them stateside, I remember finding all kinds of engines and mechanical things when I was searching a few years ago listed on their website.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detai...87268.html?s=p

Does it scare US suppliers of Chinese made products? You bet it does. The potential is there, if alibaba can verify and protect consumers its a viable marketplace to buy cheap Chinese goods without the 100% markup.

Does dealing direct with China appeal to the average buyer? You bet it doesn't, its a tough egg to crack, the language barrier and the business methods are so different. In all my dealings with China in the chemical trade I never had a good experience. Its really hard to verify legitimate from phantom corporations across that pond.
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We deal direct at work for some items - so far so good....
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