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Old March 2nd, 2012, 10:50 AM
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Finally a bit more success. 1 week and 1 can of kroil later, the brake, main shaft and case had gone their sepearte ways. I think what it finally took was a combination of the kroil rather than PB blaster, heat to get the kroil soaked in, time, and the realization that it woud be wise to try to remove the brake in pieces. The outer plate came off relatively easily allowing access to the (siezed) washer internal to the brake assembly. Getting to that washer directly made the difference.

Next is to remove the remains of the old main shaft bearing case from the new lower case, likely with some dremel work. From there, drill the aluminum spacer blocks, reassemble the winch, attach to bumper, attach to truck and wire it up.

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Old March 2nd, 2012, 04:57 PM
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Pictures? Was the condition what you expected? Are you going to get fresh brake parts or just re-assemble?
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 12:04 AM
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I'll snap some. Condition was actually better than expected for the price and history. If I get ambitious I may source a new friction disc, but honestly it and the rest of the inside of the winch look as though it's seen virtually no use. I hat to rep,ace it just to replace it.

I drilled out the blocks tonight and they should work really well. If I can get this damned bearing case out of the lower assembly, I'm hopeful that it might all get mounted this weekend. Still need to pick up some welding cable and terminals, though.
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 10:33 AM
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Sweet. Mine was the opposite. Looked like it had been refurbed or taken care of, but inside it had what looked like mud. My brake assembly was all rusted up. One of these day's I'll re-assemble mine too

Mainly posted to say I love the avatar. Probably best one for an avatar, but the stang/mullet was my favorite.
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 10:45 AM
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I'd be happy to give you a hand reassembling when you're ready, it's relatively straight forward
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Old March 7th, 2012, 10:23 AM
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Yes pics please! I picked up one recently and look forward to rebuilding.
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Old March 7th, 2012, 10:37 AM
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So getting the bearing shell out of the lower assembly was driving me nuts. I dremeled a groove through about half of it and was getting very concerned that I was taking out some of the aluminum. About that time my neighbor came by. Of note is the fact that this neighbor just received the lifetime achievement award from the hot rod association and used to build gassers (Pic attached of his Anglia). Anyway, I asked for advice on getting it out, he said "just give me the damn thing" and got it out using threaded rod, a socket and a space heater. He pointed out it's a really effective space heater. He has a fantastic shop and, now that he's 20 years retired spends most of his time rebuilding small engines. Very cool guy with more knowledge of mechanics than you'd think possible.

Anyway, he's putting the new bearing in today, with any luck I can pick it up tonight, and after an afternoon on Capital Hill I'll want some time turning wrenches. Next step: try to remember how it all goes back together!
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Old March 8th, 2012, 05:17 PM
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Picked up the lower housing after my neighbor got the bearing in. Turns out the bearing had an OD 12 thousandths larger than the hole. Took considerable work but it's in there now.

Tonight reassembly begins
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Old March 8th, 2012, 09:02 PM
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You know Tony I think that's the one thing I didn't buy for mine. Now I'm left with a mixed feeling of "perhaps its a good thing" and "damn, I should get that". LOL
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Old March 8th, 2012, 10:33 PM
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Do you even know what you do or don't have for yours anymore Galpin?!? as a side note, do you want me to bring it back to you this weekend? (sorry for the hijack Tony)
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Old March 8th, 2012, 10:41 PM
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Nope. Do I have that bearing?

Sure, why not. Plenty of room for it in the basement and you're never going to finish painting it anyway!
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Old March 8th, 2012, 11:38 PM
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Good progress tonight. Got the motor housing and drum primed got the lower assembly dry fit without the brake. Then pulled it apart to get the brake together. And that job sucked. Turns out it's easiest to use a little grease to hold the ball bearings in place and assemble the brake on a vice, then drop it into the shaft. Managed to break my snap ring pliers trying to get the brake secured on the shaft.

Now where did I put the bolts that hold the two halves of the housing together???
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Old March 9th, 2012, 08:46 AM
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In some write ups they put a vent line in the housing and raised the pour hole higher I believe.
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Old March 9th, 2012, 08:52 AM
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There are a lot of mods that can be made to these things, from vent lines to drain and fill plugs to dual batteries. My first goal is to get this reassembled and working, from there I may start messing with it. First mod will be synthetic rope though.
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Old March 9th, 2012, 09:04 AM
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In some write ups they put a vent line in the housing and raised the pour hole higher I believe.
I added a drain plug at the bottom, otherwise you have to split the case to drain the oil.
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Old March 9th, 2012, 09:04 AM
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I like your line of thinking. Keep up the good work.
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Old March 9th, 2012, 09:06 AM
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Mine has this one already, and I think it's a good one to consider. The rest can wait.

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I added a drain plug at the bottom, otherwise you have to split the case to drain the oil.
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Old March 9th, 2012, 09:07 AM
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There are a lot of mods that can be made to these things, from vent lines to drain and fill plugs to dual batteries. My first goal is to get this reassembled and working, from there I may start messing with it. First mod will be synthetic rope though.
There is also a dual motor mod
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Old March 9th, 2012, 09:18 AM
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You go dual motor might as well get that fancy drum that Gigglepin4x4 sells that will give you no resistance when you pull out the rope from a dead start. They have a youtube vid showing a guy sprinting from a dead stop with rope in hand.=)
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Old March 9th, 2012, 09:21 AM
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Sorry, meant dual motors, not batteries. Galen, where did you put the drain plug and what did you use? I'm assuming you also installed a fill plug or do you pull the clutch mechanism to refill?

Also, since you're changing the oil in yours, what do you reccomed? People seem to use everything from 30 weight to 90 weight.
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