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Old February 3rd, 2015, 07:11 AM
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miller only way to go... we have a 212 at work and I have 211 autoset at home... both are amazing... I also have a lincoln welder which I don't like to talk about b/c its an absolute pile.
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My vote, Millermatic 200, performance of a 251/252 without any electronic displays to go wrong, tougher (no plastic) and very common.

Miller is nice because you can often get consumables etc. in stock. Stuff like feed rollers and other bits and pieces. There are other good quality migs, but you can't beat the parts availability of Miller.
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Thanks for all your input! Here is the new welder:
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Nice Dave.
Congrats.
Take a pic of the wire feed mechanism when you have a chance. I want to see how similar to Hobart it is.
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It's always the way. You buy something and. A sweet deal comes along.
http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/tls/4892423889.html
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Dave, how are you liking your 211? I need to get a new welder and I'm considering that one or the Hobart Ironman 230...
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I just bought a 211 myself. They have $200 and free spool gun rebates right now. Nice machine.
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Any recommendations on a welder for starting out welding/teach yourself? (Low budget)
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AC/DC 225/125

You can find them used for a reasonable price. I just sold one recently for $350.
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yup, craigslist. you will find them cheap with low usage. Haggle if you must.
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Stay away from Harbor Freight. Not worth the aggravation. I also wouldn't get an arc welder.
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Stay away from Harbor Freight. Not worth the aggravation. I also wouldn't get an arc welder.

Why not an arc welder? I'm confident he doesn't want a friction welder and while Oxy Acetylene welding is a good skill to have, I doubt that's what he wants either.
As for the type of arc welder, a stick (SMAW) welder is the best to learn the basics with.
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I started off with a cheap off brand 40a gas mig 120v welder. This was in 2004. I bought it as a gift for my dad and used it for the next four years with no problems doing a variety of stuff.

My brother completely re welded the sheet metal on his jeep Cherokees floor. We built several chassis front end clips, a fun bicycle chopper with a gas engine conversion, hitches, carts, pieces of artwork, repaired an inter cooler....the list goes on. It is now 11 years later and it still works great.

I graduated up to a 200 amp ac dc tig, but that mig welder was where I started. Buying cheap is ok. Use Amazon instead of harbor freight. Look at user reviews. Use straight argon. Have fun. Any 210 dc mig is light years ahead of my 120v mig, anyways.

Get a mig at the least, please.
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Use straight argon.
Shielding gas choice really depends on the weld requirements.

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Get a mig at the least, please.
A welder like the one I posted is a lot easier for a complete beginner to learn proper welding technique. It also has the added advantage of being able to be used for mild steel TIG welding with excellent results.

Not saying she should never get a wire feed (after all, I also have an SP-175+), just that the AC/DC 225/125 is easier to learn with and is more versatile.
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Dave, how are you liking your 211? I need to get a new welder and I'm considering that one or the Hobart Ironman 230...
I freaking love it! I also looked at the IM 230 but am 100% percent happy with my choice and would do it again if need be.
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Another thing to consider is versatility. A gas MIG can weld virtually anything short of inconel and titanium. Stainless and aluminum, no problem.

Buzzboxes like Tom posted require the use of fluxed electrodes. The minimum current is 30A which makes welding thin-walled metal very difficult without blowing through. Repairing a Defender bulkhead with a MIG? Easy. Repairing a Defender bulkhead with a stick welder? Good luck.

If you absolutely must buy a buzzbox, look on craigslist. You can usually find them for dirt cheap as people are getting rid of them often. Do NOT, I repeat, NOT buy them new.
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Another thing to consider is versatility. A gas MIG can weld virtually anything short of inconel and titanium. Stainless and aluminum, no problem.
As can SMAW. Actually it will also weld inconel.

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Buzzboxes like Tom posted require the use of fluxed electrodes
And MIG requires gas shielding which sucks when you have to weld outdoors on a windy day. Unless you use fluxcore, which has flux like welding rods.

There is no "best welder" or "best process". At least I've never seen either in my years doing it.
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As can SMAW. Actually it will also weld inconel.

And MIG requires gas shielding which sucks when you have to weld outdoors on a windy day. Unless you use fluxcore, which has flux like welding rods.

There is no "best welder" or "best process". At least I've never seen either in my years doing it.
Good points. You're right - you can do inconel with stick.
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only based on the positive comments on the Miller 211 in this listing, I decided to buy one too. Have it now for a few weeks and have to say, works great.


Thx everybody for the input !
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