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Old December 10th, 2015, 04:02 PM
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2019 Defender in US

Is There Actually Room For A New Land Rover Defender In America?

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Land Rover Wants To Sell 10 Times More Defenders With The New Bodystyle
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Old December 10th, 2015, 04:32 PM
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Interesting. Not sure if there is any validity to it or not, or just surmising the possibility.
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Old December 10th, 2015, 04:38 PM
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Sorry Canada, only Bond baddies get to drive the new Land Rover Defender - The Globe and Mail

The Canadian sales manager has stated he wants to bring it in.
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Old December 10th, 2015, 08:15 PM
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First article speculated $60k-$80k MSRPs. Best way for LR to fuck up releasing a Defender replacement is to come into the market at that price range. $35k-$50k would be reasonable. Based on how long they've left the US "Defenderless" I would guess they price it too high and piss away their chance to make an impact on the market. And Jerry McDumbvern will ensure it looks worse than a Pontiac Aztec with 22" rims.
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None of the good ideas in that article will come to reality in the new Defender.
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Old December 11th, 2015, 09:37 AM
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Check this out: Report: New Land Rover Defender to offer five body styles beginning in 2018 | Autoweek

LR isn't looking for a "niche" vehicle. They want production numbers.
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Old December 11th, 2015, 09:41 AM
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Yeah, I was driving past the home of an owner of one of those new G wagons and the guy stood in his lawn gawking at my truck with his mouth open! Secretly, he knows the real deal!
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Hmm...
New Land Rover Defender due in 2019 | Autocar

may not be looking good if some of this plays out
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Old February 15th, 2016, 08:22 PM
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The author is an idiot. "But for the original ‘farmer’s toolbox on wheels’, there just isn’t the demand there was. That’s the problem." Just like Jeep has problems with the demand for the JK (sarcasm font on). Like Matthew said above hit the price point above the top end JKs and well below a GWagon. Hells bells, just reverse engineer a friggen' JK! It ain't building a damn rocket ship!
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lets hope so.. I'm not holding my breath or my wallet for it though..
i agree if they want the market - do a "simple" truck like the JK in 2 version (90 ST with a hardtop option/110 5 door ST/Hard Top) just like the JK..
and sell the crap out of it for 45-65K - they could probably do the numbers they want just in the US.

I think the 2 door jk sells more in NC & VA than all the defenders in the UK on a given year.
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The local Jeep dealers can't keep JKs in stock. Go to the wealthy neighborhoods around here and all the soccer mommies are driving them. It's hysterical. And also sad that JLR/Tata can't seem to figure it out.
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lets hope so.. I'm not holding my breath or my wallet for it though.. i agree if they want the market - do a "simple" truck like the JK in 2 version (90 ST with a hardtop option/110 5 door ST/Hard Top) just like the JK.. and sell the crap out of it for 45-65K - they could probably do the numbers they want just in the US. I think the 2 door jk sells more in NC & VA than all the defenders in the UK on a given year.
I think you price the top end at $50k... I've been holding back on buying something new for work to see what the new Defender will even look like, but 2019 is a long ways off.
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Old February 15th, 2016, 10:28 PM
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If it looks anything even remotely close to the DC100 Freelanderish POS they prototyped, it will die and very quick and painful death. I hope at least. They've butchered the Range Rover moniker with the sport then the evoque, so I'm sure they'll screw this up.
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From a comment by a reader:

"As I mentioned in another Defender thread, I was lucky enough to see the New Defender family in person 18 months ago. It was nothing to do with the DC100, (and for all I know they've scrapped it again) but what I saw was only waiting for the last few inches of the tail to be signed off. We were shown 3-4 alternates designs for this area and they asked us to rate them. To be honest I think the designers already knew which tail design they would go with, and merely hoped to see if data gleaned at the clinic would confirm the 'rightness' of the design they had decided to go with. The biggest version we only saw in sketch form on a very large monitor along with various tail designs to select from. The two other versions we saw were rendered in I assume fiberglass, and essentially looked like production vehicles. We only saw the interior in sketches as the concepts had blacked out windows. I find it hard to believe LR's designers have gone back to the drawing and started from scratch once again, and imo we'll see the production version late next year, for production in 2018 at either the new JLR Slovakia factory or at Magna Steyr in Graz Austria. For some reason the rake and shape of the windshield gave off a heavy Discovery 4/LR4 T5 platform vibe, although it may be that this platform is too heavy to re-purpose. It would sure keep costs down though. Autocar's 2019 production date I'm going to take with a grain of salt."
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All this talk of just knocking off the JK and price it between the Jeep and G wagon.... Just buy a friggin Jeep! Why waste the extra money? The second the design drops, if it does look like the JK, all the threads will be about how they blew it! Just like the Disco/Explorer (well, not quite cause those suck and the JK is rather cool, but ya get the point)

one of my coworkers just bought a jeep. Fox tuned suspension, locked front and rear, real sliders, terra Firma suspension upgrades and skids... All under factory warranty. Style is great too. How are you going to out do that rugged style, factory options, and good value while charging $10k-25k more? Only way is to cater to soccer moms and dads... I hope they prove me wrong but I'm not holding my breath...
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It will be interesting to see if the new truck has the ability to be used by military branches around the world.
That was a huge portion of the previous trucks sales throughout its history.
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Yeah, I was driving past the home of an owner of one of those new G wagons and the guy stood in his lawn gawking at my truck with his mouth open! Secretly, he knows the real deal!
This. A neighbor w/ a G63 wants to swap vehicles on sunny weekends.
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Let's face it, Land Rover screwed up royally over the past 15 years. They started the SUV boom in the US with the RR in 1987, they gave that market to the ford exploder.... then in 93/94/95/97 they had the Defender in the US and made it so rare and so hard to buy that a company called Jeep took notice and outsold them .... the 5 door LWB Jeep was a direct result of morons of Land Rover not wanting to put an Airbag into a 110. So then when European regulations caught up ... they just ended production. Now the Series V will be a plastic / electronic POS that I will gladly pass on. Long Live the V8 Carbs / 300tdi's.... everyone else have phone with the new stuff. I'll be 70 by the time the 2015's can be imported no need for anything newer. Rover on, did I rant enough ?
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