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Old July 1st, 2013, 03:33 PM
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Until your air suspension fails. I own two, so I know.
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Old July 1st, 2013, 03:45 PM
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Until your air suspension fails. I own two, so I know.
You own two 2013 RR's? You're a lucky guy.

The rear end of the 14 Sport looks like the Evoque and nothing else.
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Old July 1st, 2013, 03:52 PM
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Doesn't matter the year. The air suspension is the achilles heel and that prevents any model with it to be a true go anywhere vehicle.
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You own two 2013 RR's? You're a lucky guy.

The rear end of the 14 Sport looks like the Evoque and nothing else.
George is one of the luckiest guys alive ... He gets to work with me! ;-)
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Old July 1st, 2013, 08:58 PM
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New RR is very similar to Ford Explorer.
Same shape wheel arches, same license plate indent, similar shaped lower valance and suedo skid plate with dual exhaust. Tail lights are very close, as well as rear spoiler with brake light. New designed Explorer has been out since 2012
I really like RR design and build and always have. But I would think that the design team at Rover could be a bit more creative.

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Old July 1st, 2013, 09:06 PM
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Doesn't matter the year. The air suspension is the achilles heel and that prevents any model with it to be a true go anywhere vehicle.
It matters because he was talking about new vehicles. All new vehicles have an "Achilles" heel.
If you are going to take it far afield you just need to be prepared.
Take the proper tools and parts just like you would for an old vehicle.

The air suspension on the RR is actually one of the features that Gives the RR its breadth of capability.
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Old July 1st, 2013, 09:24 PM
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That sport rear end is terrible. The seriousness the range rover commanded for years is gone with that bloated rear end. I would think the values of pre 2013's are strong. I dont care if the air suspension is made of gold, its a nasty body style. Thats my opinion though.
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I haven't seen them in person, so I will hold my comments. But, seeing the ford and RR side by side, is pretty curious.
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New RR is very similar to Ford Explorer.
Same shape wheel arches, same license plate indent, similar shaped lower valance and suedo skid plate with dual exhaust. Tail lights are very close, as well as rear spoiler with brake light. New designed Explorer has been out since 2012
I really like RR design and build and always have. But I would think that the design team at Rover could be a bit more creative.

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The New Sport is designed with a big nod to the Evoque. The Evoque and new RR were both under development when Ford sold LR. Ford took those plans and ran with them. The design team at LR is very creative, just ask the Ford design team.
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Actually seeing them side by makes me realize how much is actually different. I had originally thought that they were much more alike.
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Old July 1st, 2013, 10:46 PM
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It matters because he was talking about new vehicles. All new vehicles have an "Achilles" heel.
If you are going to take it far afield you just need to be prepared.
Take the proper tools and parts just like you would for an old vehicle.

The air suspension on the RR is actually one of the features that Gives the RR its breadth of capability.
It doesn't matter the year. Air suspensions haven't changed. They still depend on rubber air bladders and plastic air hoses, which are both vulnerable to premature failure when the going gets rough.

The Range Rover was designed as an estate vehicle, which is to say that it traverses rutted and muddy dirt roads and fields successfully and comfortably. Anyone looking to truly go anywhere with their vehicle really don't choose the air sprung offerings from JLR to do so.
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 08:39 PM
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Old July 4th, 2013, 03:01 PM
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What I think is funny is how Ford did this with two vehicles. The Explorer bears uncanny resemblance to the RR, and the new Fusion front end is straight from Aston Martin. Both were brands from their former Premium Group.
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