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Old July 4th, 2014, 05:39 PM
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2014 Tahoe - Cheap Tires

So I am 700 feet from Last Dollar Summit driving through a narrow forested section of trail. An innocuous small branch (more like a stick) lays across the trail and I drove over it thinking nothing of it. I had been focusing on rocks being the threat of tread or sidewall punctures. Boom! A damn piece of that branch got stuck in the rear suspension and punctured the sidewall. The stick was 1.5" in diameter.
What's up GM with the cheap 2-ply junk tires being installed? Is it all about the fleet MPG or saving a few bucks? Perhaps 4x4 Tahoes are grocery getters now or I was a dumb ass for expecting more out of the vehicle (and for not stopping to clear the trail first).
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Old July 4th, 2014, 05:55 PM
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4x4 Tahoes have always been "grocery getters" and factory tires almost always suck. Tough luck on the trail having to change a tire. I bet the spare was a beaut!
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Old July 4th, 2014, 06:54 PM
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I'd be embarrassed to disclose how long it took to 1) even FIND the jack and related stuff then 2) figure out how to use it! Couldn't read the ~ 4 pt font manual. Thought I was armed with everything needed for an extended stay, if needed. Time to include reading glasses to list of supplies.
For posterity.... the glove fit.
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Old July 4th, 2014, 07:05 PM
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I run e load range ATs on my suburban. Largely for this reason. Stock tires are crap.
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Old July 4th, 2014, 07:08 PM
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Goodyear makes some of the worst tires, and they are quite pricey.
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Old July 4th, 2014, 08:16 PM
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Goodyear makes some of the worst tires, and they are quite pricey.
Funny that I was just and talking about tires just recently and how expensive they've become.
I use to follow the top brands. Goodyear, Goodrich, Michelin.
As the price of tires have approached $200, I've become less brand loyal. While I do my research with Consumer Reports and other internet reviews, I now find price a larger driving factor. With three vehicles, I have resorted to names I'd never considered before such as Falken, Hankook, and Cooper.
I've found for half the price, I can find tires with equal performance and in two cases better performance.
Case in point, the Michelins that came on my Discovery hydroplaned on the toll road at 55. Hankooks on the same vehicle on the same toll road I can do 70.
I just replaced the Michelins on the RR with Cooper and am happy so far.
Goodyear, BFG, Michelin are just good marketers.
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Old July 4th, 2014, 08:21 PM
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sheesh....

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I'd be embarrassed to disclose how long it took to 1) even FIND the jack and related stuff then 2) figure out how to use it! Couldn't read the ~ 4 pt font manual. Thought I was armed with everything needed for an extended stay, if needed. Time to include reading glasses to list of supplies.
For posterity.... the glove fit.


I've never seen a tire with an erection before.....

BTW, I'm glad the "glove" fit, keepin' it safe...
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Old July 4th, 2014, 08:22 PM
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Case in point, the Michelins that came on my Discovery hydroplaned on the toll road at 55. Hankooks on the same vehicle on the same toll road I can do 70.
Interesting you say that, I consider the Michelin XPC one of the best tires made. MY experience is mostly limited to newer Land Rovers, but I would never buy anything other than a Michelin or Continental for a street tire.
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Old July 4th, 2014, 08:28 PM
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I just bought the Hercules a/t II for the LR3 and they are wearing very well and are doing well offroad. I went with some ones of off ebay, and I went just a tad larger than stock. It was like 740 shipped for 4.
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Old July 4th, 2014, 08:55 PM
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Ironically, it was the XPCs that sent me sliding across three lanes.
I can't see shelling out $1000 + for balloons that keep the rims off the ground when I can get the same effect for $500.
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Old July 4th, 2014, 09:01 PM
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Debating tires is pointless, kind of like a lot of debates around here. Way too many variables.

That said, I love Michelin but I stuck a 2.5" limb much like the OP through a brand new E Range Michelin LTX on a Cummins Ram as well as deer antlers through new, and very spendy, tractor tires. Point is, sharp objects are sharp.
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Old July 4th, 2014, 09:03 PM
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I'm the worst of all, I have treadwright retreads on my 110

Somewhere right now D Chapman is calling me a cheapfuck

In my experience though Goodyear and Continentals are total garbage. I've had good luck with Falkens though pretty good tire at a real good price.
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Old July 4th, 2014, 09:20 PM
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Debating tires is pointless, kind of like a lot of debates around here. Way too many variables. That said, I love Michelin but I stuck a 2.5" limb much like the OP through a brand new E Range Michelin LTX on a Cummins Ram as well as deer antlers through new, and very spendy, tractor tires. Point is, sharp objects are sharp.
50% of my point. Sharp objects will go through a $200 balloon as easily as one that cost $125. I still get road hazard insurance. But I'm still budget minded. I just hope I never have to feel like resorting to recycled tires.
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Old July 4th, 2014, 10:49 PM
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Interesting you say that, I consider the Michelin XPC one of the best tires made. MY experience is mostly limited to newer Land Rovers, but I would never buy anything other than a Michelin or Continental for a street tire.
Liked the XPC a lot but their ltx ms2 is far superior in everyday use.
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Arguing about tires is like arguing about the best boob size and shape. We all have our preference. Doesn't mean the dissenting opinion is wrong, that's just what appeals to the next guy.
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Arguing about tires is like arguing about the best boob size and shape. We all have our preference. Doesn't mean the dissenting opinion is wrong, that's just what appeals to the next guy.
If someone thinks the Goodyear Wrangler HP is a good tire, they need to be punched in the face.
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If someone thinks the Goodyear Wrangler HP is a good tire, they need to be punched in the face.
Big ones that arent noisey
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Interesting you say that, I consider the Michelin XPC one of the best tires made. MY experience is mostly limited to newer Land Rovers, but I would never buy anything other than a Michelin or Continental for a street tire.
For a truck or a car?




Also, Goodyear HPs are, according to Goodyear, Street/ sport truck all weathers. They arent designed to trail ride at all. Even tame ones. Explains the sidewalls. I agree though, Goodyears have gotten far too expensive for what you get.
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Also, Goodyear HPs are, according to Goodyear, Street/ sport truck all weathers. They arent designed to trail ride at all. Even tame ones. Explains the sidewalls. I agree though, Goodyears have gotten far too expensive for what you get.
I was referring to the Michelin XPC that came on Disco's. As far as the Goodyears sucking, they are bad street tires. I have no idea how they are off road. They last about 10k on a Land Rover before they get very noisy. They cup so badly it sounds like a flat tire.
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I was referring to the Michelin XPC that came on Disco's. As far as the Goodyears sucking, they are bad street tires. I have no idea how they are off road. They last about 10k on a Land Rover before they get very noisy. They cup so badly it sounds like a flat tire.
I have had the same experience. I have seen Duratrac sidewalls tear as well. No experience with the MTRs but have heard they are okay. I have had cupping and weird wear patterns with BFG ATs as well. Best ATs I have ever had were Pro Comps and Yoko Geolanders.
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