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Old February 3rd, 2010, 06:59 PM
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2010 Ford 4.4 V8 diesel

Anyone else hear about this engine? Sounds like Ford is bringing some smaller diesels to the USA. Would be great to eventually have an option where we could buy parts at the local Ford dealer! My biggest resistance to installing a diesel right now is the sheer lack of parts and service help. The small diesel v8 produces something like 300hp out of the crate.
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Old February 3rd, 2010, 11:54 PM
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I believe the engine has been iced along with everyone else's small diesel for the US market
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Anyone else hear about this engine? Sounds like Ford is bringing some smaller diesels to the USA. Would be great to eventually have an option where we could buy parts at the local Ford dealer! My biggest resistance to installing a diesel right now is the sheer lack of parts and service help. The small diesel v8 produces something like 300hp out of the crate.
Parts are easy to come by.

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I believe the engine has been iced along with everyone else's small diesel for the US market
VW, but at 2.0 litre, too small. The Tdi is too small.
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Old February 4th, 2010, 09:00 AM
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Well it be a great engine to put in a Defender, I spoke to a chap yesterday who has fitted the new Range Rover V8 diesel into a Defender in the UK, it goes like shit off a shovel!
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Old February 4th, 2010, 11:17 AM
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What about the V6 tdi in the US touareg? It should be powerful enough.
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Old February 4th, 2010, 11:37 AM
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Lots of new diesels are going to be popping up, some have already done so, but the all seem to be done with the exhaust scrubbers. BWM and Benz already have them in the market, and look like great engines.

Not sure how I feel about having to haul around a tank of pee though.

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Old February 4th, 2010, 11:58 AM
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Particulate filters are mandatory on all new engines. Urea injection becomes needed on anything larger than a Golf. Blame your stupid government for rediculous emissions standards that have no scientific requirement.

Because of the expensive treatment systems required in North America, most manufacturers are only putting diesels on more expensive cars.
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Old February 4th, 2010, 12:09 PM
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Except for the Cummins engine, it meets emissions without urea injection.
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Old February 4th, 2010, 12:48 PM
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In the "truck" category, the NOX limits are higher and they can avoid it at least for the time being. An F150 and other smaller vehicles fall out of the category, I think.
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There's already a US spec powerstroke 4.5 v6 used in the Ford LCF series of medium duty trucks. It gets 200hp out of the box and would be a very interesting swap. Complex yes, but definitely interesting, and the engine would already be in the states.
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Particulate filters are mandatory on all new engines. Urea injection becomes needed on anything larger than a Golf. Blame your stupid government for rediculous emissions standards that have no scientific requirement.

Because of the expensive treatment systems required in North America, most manufacturers are only putting diesels on more expensive cars.
Your right on and right on. The TDi VW I just got has no bath, but it is also a 2.0 and has a miriad of stupid exaust chicanery that rob tons of milage.
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The Jetta/Golf don't have urea because the mileage is low enough to just squeeze by the NOX regulations. Any larger vehicle uses more fuel and goes over the limit needing urea. They had planned on bring in the Tiguan with the same engine, but due to higher mileage with the larger vehicle it just went over the NOX limit. As they was no location for the urea tank, they canceled the engine.
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The Jetta/Golf don't have urea because the mileage is low enough to just squeeze by the NOX regulations. Any larger vehicle uses more fuel and goes over the limit needing urea. They had planned on bring in the Tiguan with the same engine, but due to higher mileage with the larger vehicle it just went over the NOX limit. As they was no location for the urea tank, they canceled the engine.
Just as well I guess. The 2.0 is a tiny underpowered for the Jetta, so anything bigger would probably be annoying.

The 45mpg is a welcomed change from my 24mpg altima though. That 2007 sucked.
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I thought you were all about that Altima.
The 2002 was the best car I have ever owned for value. What you get vs what you pay. 28mpg average. 288,000 miles.

The 2007 with the new body and CVT transmission was a piece of crap. Slow, the transmission pulled all the power out of it, bad gas milage, and an uncomfortable seat. It was probelm free up to 70k but I dumped it.
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Just as well I guess. The 2.0 is a tiny underpowered for the Jetta, so anything bigger would probably be annoying.
Have you driven a current model Jetta/Golf TDI? They have lots of power stock and can be tuned to be very fast.
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Have you driven a current model Jetta/Golf TDI? They have lots of power stock and can be tuned to be very fast.
I just rolled past 6,500 miles on my 2010 tdi Jetta. Its a good car but not a fast car. It's a little underpowered for a 26k car. The people who love these cars are cult like. I doubt it could ever be tuned to 'fast' but fast is relative. It has more turbo lag than my rover.

But for what it was built for, mpg, it's great. If it turns out to be trouble free it will be a great car.
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If you have turbo lag, your car is broken. Seriously. A wastegated 300TDI DOES have turbo lag. A common rail, VNT does not unless it is broken.

30% more power and 50% more torque are quite easy.
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If you have turbo lag, your car is broken. Seriously. A wastegated 300TDI DOES have turbo lag. A common rail, VNT does not unless it is broken.

30% more power and 50% more torque are quite easy.
Yes. I'm am sure my car is broken. The one I test drove before I got mine was broken as well. So was my buddies tdi Audi. All broken.
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