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Old July 21st, 2016, 08:27 PM
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2004 Discovery opinions

I have my eye on this truck as a new shop truck/tow vehicle.

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I had a '98 Disco previously and had good luck with it. I am hoping the later model year with the larger engine would be a better tow vehicle.
Is this year a good year? What do you see here that should be of a concern to me?
Any info on the seller?
Thanks for your input.
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Old July 21st, 2016, 08:34 PM
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Start by checking the chassis. D2 units rot horribly.
Know of two vehicles on second chassis
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Old July 22nd, 2016, 06:46 AM
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Start by checking the chassis. D2 units rot horribly.
Makes me thankful to live in the southeast. Depending on whether you need or want CDL will shape some of your search. I had an 04' with few issues but would be hesitant to get another 4.6 Disco again. Whether it's real or perceived I seem to hear folks talk about them slipping liners more often than the 4.0.

Edit: looking at the price I'd say pass on this one. Should be closer to 5-6 grand. I did it once but wouldn't suggest buying a Disco on eBay either. Find a D2 that a Rover enthusiast's wife drove or was otherwise pampered as a DD
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Old July 22nd, 2016, 07:32 AM
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For that money you can buy an LR3, which is a much better vehicle, IMHO. Especially '08 on.
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Old July 22nd, 2016, 07:38 AM
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For that money you can buy an LR3, which is a much better vehicle, IMHO. Especially '08 on.
Second. I've had two D2s and now have an 06 LR3. The LR3 has been significantly more reliable in addition to being a significantly better vehicle.
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makes me thankful to live in the southeast.

Depending on whether you need or want cdl will shape some of your search. I had an 04' with few issues but would be hesitant to get another 4.6 disco again. Whether it's real or perceived i seem to hear folks talk about them slipping liners more often than the 4.0

cdl? Not clear what that is.

Also, on the LR3 suggestions, I am game but wonder what makes the MY2008 and later a better choice?
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Old July 22nd, 2016, 08:13 AM
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cdl? Not clear what that is.
Center Differential Lock. If you're not planning on doing any heavy wheeling a non-CDL D2 would suffice. I've never worked on or owned an LR3 but like that you can easily turn wrenches yourself on a D2
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A DII isn't good for towing much of anything.
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A DII isn't good for towing much of anything.
Good for towing companies
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A buddy just bought a used Mini and got an aftermarket extended warranty- any vehicle, good for 100k additional miles as long as '01/newer and less than 150k mi currently.
So, he thought- get it for his daughter's '03 D-II- excluded from coverage!! And if that isn't enough, Carmax has the D-I and D-II on their 'do not buy/trade' list, and have been the last 10 years or so!!

Problem is, I was offered a one owner '03 TReK this week with 70k mi, garaged, paint and graphics near perfect- everything in tact- even original tires removed at 400 mi and stored in bags!! But, I am still skeptical knowing the slipped liner/head gasket issues. Not that they can't be fixed, but the big unknown of 'when', not 'if'...
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cdl? Not clear what that is.

Also, on the LR3 suggestions, I am game but wonder what makes the MY2008 and later a better choice?
Thank gents
To echo others, the LR3/D3 is light years better than a Dii for most people and most application; the drivetrain reliability alone-particularly compared to the late Dii's and their penchant for head gaskets/slipped sleeves/overheating is reason enough.

As far as MY08 and later, that's as much subjective opinion as fact. Theoretically the MY05's had teething problems (though that is as much lore as fact) and thus in theory the further along you get in production the less of those and the more small refinements have been made.

Substantively one thing that is different is MY08, I believe, has the clock on the instrument panel display and on the dash...previous years don't. Until you use your IID tool (essential for ownership) and re-flash the system...then you do.
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Agree on 08 LR3 onwards. By that time they had debugged it sufficiently to be a good vehicle.
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I got a D1 as a second vehicle since I was already familiar with the driveline and suspension. The DII only appeals to me when I wish I had a little more cargo room.

We have an LR3 and love it.
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Agree on 08 LR3 onwards. By that time they had debugged it sufficiently to be a good vehicle.
the main issue with the earlier ones is the differentials, especially the front. definitely need to listen for whining when looking. other than that, I don't know of any specific early model problems.
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Thanks guys, lots of good info. I hadn't considered the LR3 for some reason, focused on the DII.
I like the stats on it as well.
Oddly enough I am looking to replace a 2004 Suburban which is nickel and dimeing me to death.
If I'm going to spend on maintenance, I'd rather be driving a LR.
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A buddy just bought a used Mini and got an aftermarket extended warranty- any vehicle, good for 100k additional miles as long as '01/newer and less than 150k mi currently.
So, he thought- get it for his daughter's '03 D-II- excluded from coverage!! And if that isn't enough, Carmax has the D-I and D-II on their 'do not buy/trade' list, and have been the last 10 years or so!!

Problem is, I was offered a one owner '03 TReK this week with 70k mi, garaged, paint and graphics near perfect- everything in tact- even original tires removed at 400 mi and stored in bags!! But, I am still skeptical knowing the slipped liner/head gasket issues. Not that they can't be fixed, but the big unknown of 'when', not 'if'...

A slipped liner has no symptoms other than noise. I wouldn't be worried.
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Had a 2004 G4 Disco for 10 years.

Common issues are "Three Amigos" (ABS/Hill Descent/Traction Control lights) Using An ABS Amigo To Diagnose Land Rover Discovery ABS Codes Usually turns out to be a shuttle valve.

Front drive shaft U joint - non serviceable- and right next to the Catalytic converter, they get cooked from the heat. Upgrades are available

Cracked block from overheating - known issue with castings on some of the 4.6's having not enough material between the water jacket and cylinder bore. The block cracks from heat, coolant works it's way up the outside of the liner and into the combustion chamber, or exhaust works it's way out through the crack. Exhaust smell in the coolant reservoir, excessive white exhaust, overheating and low coolant levels.

The heads are usually needing to be done every 50,000 miles. Head bolts are a stretch bolt type and always seem to be causing issues.
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I loved my 2004 DII.

Most trouble free Rover I ever owned. Probably spent $1000 on maint costs for entire ownership, and $800 of that was getting the brake distribution block replaced.

Sold it too early. But it is being used well by a guy who appreciates it.
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I loved my 2004 DII. Most trouble free Rover I ever owned. Probably spent $1000 on maint costs for entire ownership, and $800 of that was getting the brake distribution block replaced. Sold it too early. But it is being used well by a guy who appreciates it.
Must have been a Tuesday build. I know mine was a Friday build. Not just from a higher maintenance perspective, but was also told of the build date by LR.
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