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Old May 14th, 2013, 04:22 PM
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200 or 300?

So is this a 200tdi or a 300tdi?

I did a quick google image search and think I have the answer but just wanted a few eyes on it to verify. Hopefully one picture will give enough information.

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Old May 14th, 2013, 04:51 PM
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200TDI, Discovery version.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 06:05 PM
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Thanks fellers, that is what I was told. It is sitting at the port and the "officials" have determined it to be a 300tdi. If I can figure out the date of manufacture I might have a leg to stand on. Not sure what is more important, original unmodified condition or 21 year old engine.

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Old May 14th, 2013, 06:10 PM
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Does it not have a serial number on the block? That identifies the engine type. If it is in a vehicle, you are pretty much screwed as the truck needs to be 25+ years old with the original engine type. A Discovery 200TDI is obviously not more than 25 years old nor the original type for a Defender.
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The most noticeable difference is the the very front top of the motor where the water line is. 300 are completely different, but they use the same intake but different exhaust manifolds.
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Thanks fellers, that is what I was told. It is sitting at the port and the "officials" have determined it to be a 300tdi. If I can figure out the date of manufacture I might have a leg to stand on. Not sure what is more important, original unmodified condition or 21 year old engine.

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I know someone else that i having to export a vehicle because it has a 200tdi rather than the original 2.5TD ... basically I would have thought unless it's the engine that it came out of the factory with you're screwed with the current clamp down.
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Thanks fellers, that is what I was told. It is sitting at the port and the "officials" have determined it to be a 300tdi. If I can figure out the date of manufacture I might have a leg to stand on. Not sure what is more important, original unmodified condition or 21 year old engine.

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Are you able to talk to the "officials" at the port? If so, just point out that 300 have serpentine belts, and the old engines have v-belts.... still doesn't change the fact that a 200 isn't old enough yet, but maybe you'll confuse them and they'll let it through.
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Some 200 engines are old enough. That is part of the contradiction. If they place more importance on the original condition than age of engine then I'm screwed. If they are holding to the 21 year exemption for engines then it should be ok, depending on date of manufacture.
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I guess it's pointless to arm chair quarterback what we think customs is going to do. I'd like to know if you would be allowed to separate truck and engine. Both compliant as individuals. I don't think they are compliant as a unit.
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Some 200 engines are old enough. That is part of the contradiction. If they place more importance on the original condition than age of engine then I'm screwed. If they are holding to the 21 year exemption for engines then it should be ok, depending on date of manufacture.
The EPA recently stated that the 21yr exemption only applies to an original configuration. If its not of the original type then its not exempt. If its changed from original then it loses any exemption it may otherwise have been entitled to by age, irrespective of the age of the two parts (truck and engine). Its the combined packages originality and age taken together that matters not just the age of the component parts.

There is a type identifier built into the engine serial # on the block. It is supposed to match the engine type as built into the VIN. If they check and they don't agree the you may have trouble.
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