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Old November 29th, 2007, 01:08 PM
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18" Rims

Hey guys, my number one priority is function. A very close #2 priority is looks. I really like the look of the 18" rims, as seen in the picture below BUT

1. Will I have the same off-road capability with the 18" rims and 35" tires?

2. What mods (not a fan of the wheel spacers) would I need to do if I wanted to go with the 18" rims?

Thanks in advance,

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Old November 29th, 2007, 01:39 PM
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You should ask Silverline (UK), they are selling 17 and 18" alloy wheel,
grey and black finish. They probably know tech. issues about those sizes.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 01:49 PM
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You'll have to run the adaptors (like wheel spacers) that change the bolt pattern to the newer D2 style pattern (like that D90 in the picture has), or replace your front and rear axles with D2 axles (SERIOUS mods would be needed)

As to 18" wheels off road... never run them so I can't say good or bad.
I've seen some late model Fords do pretty well on 17" rims with big meats, but can't say I've seen an 18.

IMO... too blingy, but then again I like steel wheels.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 02:15 PM
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A couple things to consider --
1) There are a lot less choices of offroad tire for 18" rims.. and they are significantly more expensive.
2) you lose the some of the ability to air down.. you have a lot less sidewall

In the Discovery world, one of the first 'mods' people make to their trucks is ditching the 18s for 16s..
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All good points.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 03:24 PM
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Sidewall deflection won't be a major issue off road since this is a non beadlocked wheel and therefore pressures wont be that low. If you wheel in off camber situations, the 18 might help, if you wheel in big rocks it might not be as good with less sidewall to wrap around the rocks. I run a 17" wheel with 37s at 3psi and wouldn't want any more sidewall at that pressure. At ten PSI I can't tell too much difference between the set of 37s I have on 15s vs the set I have on 17s.

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Old November 29th, 2007, 03:28 PM
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Right now I am running 33 " tires on 16" rims.

Going to 35" tires on 18" rims seems like an "even trade" when it comes to sidewalls.
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Old November 30th, 2007, 11:31 AM
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Dude, your a classic case of someone with too much disposable income (and free time)! LOL.

If you want a nice set of D2 axles (15K on them) for your 18" rims, talk to me - still thinking about getting this wrecked D2 for the drivetrain.

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Get a D2 with a grey interior and then sell me the seats and door panels.

My '99 D2 winter beater was previously owned by someone with a really pissed off dog and it chewed up the seats, but what the heck, it was only 1000.
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The rule I live by is 10" min. Meaning 10" of rubber around the wheel. So to get those, your looking at a 38" tire to have a useful combination. If function is your main motivator, I wouldn't even consider those.

I run 40's on a 15in wheel with about 6psi in them and I frekin love the combination. But to each his own.
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You definitely do not want D2 axles... they are semi-floaters.. so trail repairs are a bitch.. also not many aftermarket options for hd axles (maxidrive rears ~$700, and ashcroft fronts+hd cvs $1000)... plus the axle stakenut is torqued at 370lb/ft ... not fun taking off... plus the suspension setup is different, especially in the back, there is a watts linkage... which you could replace with a panhard rod, but after doing all the custom fab to make them fit and work right, you would have been better off doing portals or something..
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The rule I live by is 10" min. Meaning 10" of rubber around the wheel. So to get those, your looking at a 38" tire to have a useful combination. If function is your main motivator, I wouldn't even consider those.

I run 40's on a 15in wheel with about 6psi in them and I frekin love the combination. But to each his own.
Sounds like you should be "Buckon40s" then
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Sounds like you should be "Buckon40s" then
A name change would confuse the natives.
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Bigger rims with same size tires does equal more rolling mass as well. This means stopping distance starts to increase big-time.

Also, the general trend I've seen is the bigger the rim, the more open the spoke pattern. This means less metal to support anything, which means a weaker overall rim. Combine that with using aluminum, and you really sacrifice strength. So choose the aesthetics carefully, since you may be sacrificing more than you think.
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A stock RR with those wheels does quite well so I would think a D90 with those wheels and big 37" tires should do just fine. Certainly if you are as serious an off-roader as BuckonXX's you would not want to switch but if you stick to lighter off-roading I think you would be just fine. Its all preference. I think it looks pretty good but I also really like the factory alloys so I don't know if I would bother with the expense personally.
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I was trying to find some pics of the new 18" and 17" wheels from
silverline, but nothing on their website.
Saw those wheels on last edition of LRE magazine (black sport
and silver sport alloy wheels).
I'm a steel wheel user and fan, but I have to say that those
alloys are very nice, design is clean and simple.
If someone have some pics or know the maker.
I don't know but I feel that this model of alloy is going to be a big seller.
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