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Old April 23rd, 2016, 11:07 AM
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120 Volt Engine Mounted Generator

I just found and purchased a new 120 volt engine powered generator for less that half the retail price.
It is an older design Fabco Power Mite 110.
Will post some pictures when it gets here, but you can read about it here:

http://www.fabcopower.com/generat/bgen.htm

Produces 29 amps peak and came with all the installation parts less the universal brackets, which I don't need.
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Old April 24th, 2016, 10:42 PM
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Hmm... interesting.. I guess it will save space for an inverter? Where would the extra belt be routed to?
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Old April 24th, 2016, 10:48 PM
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Complicated way if getting 110v.
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Old April 24th, 2016, 10:50 PM
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Complicated way if getting 110v.
Not if you want 30 amps. You would need a big generator otherwise.
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I've been looking for a small inverter just to run small things a run a small 650Watt Mr. Coffee for fresh coffee.
I live off grid and use Outback Power systems to power our home. Another proven brand of inverters is Xantrex.

Xantrex 813 1000 UL XPower 1000 Watt 12 Volt Inverter | eBay

They sell some larger WATT units too, 1500, 3000 and 5000 Watts.
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I've been looking for a small inverter just to run small things a run a small 650Watt Mr. Coffee for fresh coffee.
I live off grid and use Outback Power systems to power our home. Another proven brand of inverters is Xantrex.

Xantrex 813 1000 UL XPower 1000 Watt 12 Volt Inverter | eBay

They sell some larger WATT units too, 1500, 3000 and 5000 Watts.
The subject generator will put out 29 AMPS @ 120 Volts.
That is 3,480 watts.
I am no expert, but would think to produce the same wattage with a 12V system would require 3,480 watts (29 * 120) / 12 = 290 = 290 amps at 12V
If you use an inverter, it will reduce the output by about 10% so 290 * 1.10 = 319 amps at 12 Volts to be equal to the subject 120V generatior.

If you want some low wattage 12V to 120V inverters, they can be had starting at about $40 and go up into the thousands of dollars.

You probably already know this, but when dealing with 12V to 120V inverters, you have to match the amperage demands, otherwise the system will fail and equipment overload and burn out...
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The subject generator will put out 29 AMPS @ 120 Volts.
That is 3,480 watts.
I am no expert, but would think to produce the same wattage with a 12V system would require 3,480 watts (29 * 120) / 12 = 290 = 290 amps at 12V
If you use an inverter, it will reduce the output by about 10% so 290 * 1.10 = 319 amps at 12 Volts to be equal to the subject 120V generatior.

If you want some low wattage 12V to 120V inverters, they can be had starting at about $40 and go up into the thousands of dollars.

You probably already know this, but when dealing with 12V to 120V inverters, you have to match the amperage demands, otherwise the system will fail and equipment overload and burn out...
I ended up buying the Xantrex 1500 Watt, it claims a continuous 13 Amps which is more than I'll need to run a drip coffee maker, I do have my weakness's
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I ended up buying the Xantrex 1500 Watt, it claims a continuous 13 Amps which is more than I'll need to run a drip coffee maker, I do have my weakness's
Fire it up early for the coffee dependent amps, then you should be fixed, voltage wise and caffeine as well!
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Produces 29 amps peak and came with all the installation parts less the universal brackets, which I don't need.
At what RPM does it produce 29A @ 120V?

I have a diesel pusher that has a dedicated Onan Quiet diesel generator 8000W that can runs two roof top 11000BTU AC units simultaneously while charging the 4 6v house batteries. I am just amazed how this little alternator looking generator can generate 4000W reliably?

I think the Onan Quiet Diesel generator are about $10K new and it is about 4'x5'x3'.

I feel like this 29A, 120v, seems like peak theoretical rating.. more like 500HP @ 9000RPM @ flywheel with 50PSI boost pressure with intercooler size of a defender windshield.

I wonder how much traction the drive belt would need so that it won't slip to keep the generator spinning under load. Hopefully it won't stall the engine when it does catch.
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I have decided to power our portable AC for the Dormobile with the quiet Honda 2000 watt generator so will sell this unit unused on eBay.
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