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Old October 21st, 2007, 12:25 AM
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110 Tdi - 285/75/16

My search for tires continues - I'am running a 300TDI/R380 110 and have a 3 inch OME lift and new wolf rims in boxes waiting for the spring.

Regarding 285/75/16's - I requested info from another source and was told gearing and axle/CV's will be an issue with the 285's. Any thoughts from TDI drivers? The Rover is not my daily driver, rather it gets used for weekends and travel only with heavy loads, roof rack, roof tent etc. It will see the long highway runs I used to do in my Series III - Toronto to Baja, Mex., Belize/Guat. etc. and while I don't seek out hardcore trails due to the size and weight I would like more clearance under the salisbury then I get from the 235's it has on it now.

I know tire choice is the next big decision - I am trying to get a handle on size right now. Will the little 300 TDI and stock drivetrain be struggling with 285's?

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Old October 21st, 2007, 03:01 AM
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A 110 with a 300TDi Struggles period. How much worse could tires make it?
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Old October 21st, 2007, 09:22 AM
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I think 285 will fit well a 110. Is your Tdi computerized (ECU) ?
If you are worried about HP, well you can tweak it a little bit and
may be match the HP of a TD5, may be even more.
I run 265/75 with heavy steel wheels, no suspension modification
and stock Tdi, without issues, well... it's a 90... but anyway.

Just curious, how wides are your wolf rims ? If you run 285
you should have 8"...
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Old October 21st, 2007, 11:22 AM
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I'd look at the 255/85 size instead - although I ran that size for a time on my Tdi D-90 and went back to the 235/85 size.
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Old October 21st, 2007, 12:20 PM
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I'd look at the 255/85 size instead - although I ran that size for a time on my Tdi D-90 and went back to the 235/85 size.
Why did you switch from 255/85 to 235/85? just wondering....
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Old October 21st, 2007, 12:44 PM
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It is a fine size. They can do with higher gearing, IMO, so a larger tire helps.

There is lots of free power available if you want it.
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Old October 21st, 2007, 01:42 PM
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Thank you for the posts..... I guess ones definition of struggle is relative. While the loaded 110 is probably similar in acceleration to my 2.25 petrol Series, the 110 will run up to the highway speed limit and hold it to the top of most grades. To me, struggle is my Series III reaching the top of the grade in 3rd gear at 30 mph with a 65 mph speed limit.

265's or 255's may be better choices. My concerns regarding the 255's are the limited tire choices and reports I've read of 4 to 5 days wait to get ahold of one. That kind of time would take a bite out of a three week holiday. 285's appear to be a much more common size. I wasn't aware 8 inche rim widths were required......

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Old October 21st, 2007, 02:14 PM
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Not "Required" but recommended. I thought about the 285s as well but felt they would be too wide for the NAS 110 steelies and I didn't want to buy spacers also. I decided I am going to go with 255/85/16 BFG M/Ts. If you are concerned about the wait for a tire just get an additional one and strap it to the roof rack or the hood.

To be honest though, when I called a local tire place he said he had 10 in stock in that size, and that is Chicago where it is probably a far less common tire than say in the west.
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Old October 21st, 2007, 06:07 PM
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How do those MT's perform in snow and ice? I like that size, but TA/KO's don't come in it. New tires next spring.
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Old October 21st, 2007, 07:01 PM
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Why did you switch from 255/85 to 235/85? just wondering....
I didn't like the reduction in steering lock and I thought the 235/85's worked and looked better for North Georgia conditions - tall and skinny cuts through the top layer of Georgia red clay better and gets you down to something you can get traction on. I had to adjust my steering stops out with the 255's and they still rubbed at full lock. On a heavily laden 110 it would probably be my first choice though.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 07:06 AM
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gearing and axle/CV's will be an issue with the 285's. Any thoughts from TDI drivers? (...)Will the little 300 TDI and stock drivetrain be struggling with 285's?
Henry

I guess axles/CVs may break depending on your driving style.
I fitted 285/75 SSRs to my 90 1 year ago at least and the 300 is bone stock,3.54 R&Ps.
It struggles sometimes (steep hills) and lower gearing would help,
but it's not a drama for the rest of the time

IMHO I'd say it's 285s are the limit...but do-able.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 09:38 AM
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I have a friend with a 300TDI D-110 with BFG 285/75/16's. They rubbed on the frame and had Frank make him 1inch spacers. This is the aluminum type that sets over all the 5 posts(not individual spacers) they are $300 a pair but are the way you want to go if you want this tire.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 10:34 AM
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Well.... You MUST get rims with less back spacing than stock..... 16x8 or 16x7 with 4" backspacing.

As far on the struggling on hills comment... That is why you have a selection of gears. Shift down.... It is only geared too high if first is too high on a steep start or 5th is unusable on a flat road. The change in gearing is only 3%...
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 10:52 AM
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Thanks for the hint


jokes apart,I meant she struggles going uphill in 3rd/2nd where was used to slot 4th in before

of course it's relative,but you can live with that...


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As far on the struggling on hills comment... That is why you have a selection of gears. Shift down....
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 02:47 PM
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Wellllll, it is important with the 200/300TDI to keep the engine on boost if you need power. So a gear is needed to keep the rpm above 2000 rpm. It really help to have a tachometer.

In the end are you going slower up the hill or just in a different gear?
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 06:58 PM
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235's on a 1.44:1 ratio transfer box with a GKN overdrive +28% to the gearing in 3rd 4th and 5th when selected, fully laden for a big expedition was too much. (ultimately for the overdrive which went terminally belly-up outside Madrid on the way back. Luckily I'd packed the origional transfer gear)
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 03:28 AM
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In the end are you going slower up the hill or just in a different gear?
Slower in a different gear


Rallying on hills with 285s makes tight turns er...interesting!

I'm getting older and wiser...

I'd like to try 4.1 gears but I don't want to lavish more than I already did,
I'll consider a full Toy conversion if I'll find something cheap one day...
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Slower in a different gear


Rallying on hills with 285s makes tight turns er...interesting!

I'm getting older and wiser...

I'd like to try 4.1 gears but I don't want to lavish more than I already did,
I'll consider a full Toy conversion if I'll find something cheap one day...
Older yes, but I wonder about the wiser with the company you keep.....
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Wink

What do you mean?!?!


Hope to meet you again next year...
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