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Old June 15th, 2010, 09:00 AM
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The Cove Campout, 2010

September 30th through October 3rd.

Registration is open.
http://virginia4x4.org/cove/
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Old June 21st, 2010, 02:16 PM
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Excellent I have taken Bruce's classes, well worth it.

Is this a conflict with MAR?

Is there going to be a MAR?
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Old June 21st, 2010, 03:51 PM
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There is a MAR and it is the same dates.
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Old June 26th, 2010, 12:25 PM
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MAR is sept.30-October 3. Site to be announced soon.
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Old June 28th, 2010, 10:25 AM
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ROAV continues to battle themselves on settling on a MAR location. This year, too, is another test year for the MAR as they try to build yet another site to host their event. Just like the past few years it will come down to the wire with their work weekends and trail clean-ups in preparation for the event.

The Cove has been the location for the last few years where a few have gathered while ROAV finds itself. The Cove property is completely self-contained and can handle several hundred vehicles at the same time and still avoid the Pearls Pond type traffic jams. In the past this was an invite only event, but this year it will be open to all Rover owners and their friends.

Just a few features of the Cove include:
6,000 acres of private, heavily wooded, legal land
4 large mountain ridges, 3 large lakes, and a beach
67 Intermediate & Advanced trails
25 Stock & Beginner trails
Hot Showers
Flushing toilets
Ice machine
RV/Camper section with electric
Several cabins for rent
Panic shelters
Every tent site includes a fire ring and tables
Parts stores, shopping centers, hotels, etc.. are less than 15-minutes away

This place is move-in-ready. No work weekends, no trail clean-ups, no club related politics. Just show up, camp and wheel. Very laid back.

More information will follow very soon, including pricing. Just ironing out a few very small details with the web site.
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Old June 28th, 2010, 11:37 AM
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I cannot believe that ROAV still rejects this site it is a natural for they except the BOD would have to get a bit farther away from Richmond then they prefer.

I will attend MAR for a day or so and a day or so at The Cove I still believe that a lot of the north and east Guys would attend MAR if it was closer (The Cove) and as Dan says no setup or clean up WTF ROAV??
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Old June 28th, 2010, 01:01 PM
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Wouldn't be awesome if somewhat and I say this just thinking outloud.

It appears the main issue in ROAV is ( I hope I say his name properly ) John Tackley, so if he would really care for the Club's wellbeing and to do so requires his resignation, I ask why not?

I am assumming ( not sure if it is correct ) if he does that, then this could be like it used to be.

So I am wondering ( as I know Chuck, Christina, John K , Eric and I am sure am forgetting few others ) those who really care for ROAV, why not present the option to retire to JT?
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Old June 28th, 2010, 02:53 PM
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Last year's MAR was at a good location. Some more trails and that place would be great.
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Old June 28th, 2010, 03:19 PM
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If these same questions were addressed to each ROAV Director, I'm sure you would receive seven different answers. But that's exactly what you'll need to do to get your answer(s). The officers of ROAV are nothing more than event coordinators and I've yet to get a straight answer out of any of them as to why this happens every year.

I hope this thread does not get focused on ROAV, though. I can start a new thread if any wishes to discuss ROAV, John Tackley, or what needs to happen at ROAV to get things back to order.

In the mean time, how about some Cove pics...



























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Old June 28th, 2010, 03:41 PM
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interesting I'm 50/50 right now.
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Old June 28th, 2010, 03:46 PM
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interesting I'm 50/50 right now.

Same boat if MAR is going to be the same weekend.
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Old June 28th, 2010, 04:01 PM
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Looks like Dan has it pretty much all figured out, and it sounds like a damn good place.
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Looks too hardcore for me. How many bunny trails are there?
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Old June 28th, 2010, 05:16 PM
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Ron,

I will stopping for couple of days at the Cove ( and will be sporting a cast on my left leg ) and if I remember correctly, there are plenty of carnage free trails
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Old June 28th, 2010, 06:09 PM
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Dan,

First, I think the cove would be a great venue for the MAR (and your event), and wheel there as often as I can.

Second, I know you intentionally pick the dates to coincide with MAR each year, although I don't know the reasons or politics behind it (and honestly don't care or want to know). And I guess I don't know what the point or goal is exactly other than you'd like people to go to your event instead of the MAR.

But, the thing is all you are doing is bringing negativity to an otherwise fun event and causing division for no good reason. I suspect if you made your event within a few weeks of the MAR you'd likely get a similar turnout to each when on the same date, except maybe a few people will make both (those who don't care about the politics and just like the events). Since I don't know what your goal is it's hard to determine if you'd achieve it on a separate date, but I suspect the answer is yes - except you'd do it with a little honey instead of picking a fight. I guess I'm just saying that the average MAR attendee doesn't know or care what your cause is, but also don't care for the negativity you bring to it.

Asking myself why I bothered posting this as I am sure nothing will come of it, but hey...

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p.s. Ron, afaik they can't have it at the same location as last year.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 10:38 AM
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Charles,

Last year the event was on two separate weekends. It just did not work out this year for several reasons. The main reason is because the sponsor, OEX, will be involved in a month-long training exercise in CT during September. Then their Iceland Expedition takes off October 16th, but of course they need a few days to prepare the mission...

Your post is somewhat accurate, though, and I'm guessing you've heard one side of the story as to why the Cove Campout was born in the first place. I will not go into detail in this thread, but there are two sides to every story.

The Cove Campout is nothing more, or nothing less, than a laid back weekend on a really cool property that just happens to have some great resources like-minded people enjoy. We've tried to get ROAV involved since 2007, but they're not interested.

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Looks too hardcore for me. How many bunny trails are there?
A lot. They claim 27, but looking at the map I count at least 35. Of course conditions change over the years and with rain. But it's a safe bet you could run trails for three solid days and never get to them all.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 01:47 PM
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Looks too hardcore for me. How many bunny trails are there?
Not at all. I've been there with a stock DII and had no issues.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 06:52 PM
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Last year's MAR was at a good location. Some more trails and that place would be great.
that place was not good at all as far as trails go, and no showers

Dan I somewhat agree, dammit I like the family atmosphere at MAR now that wife and kids come and would honestly prefer to make it to both regardless of location just to see everyone. Can you not back it up a month, I mean how big of a sponsor is Garrett that it revolves around his trips?
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