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Seriously, make your own and keep it fresh. Store bought kits have so many useless items and tend to have an excess of cheaper items. Do you need 100 adhesive bandages and 50 tabs of aspirin? The Amazon blowout kit I posted earlier is a great start to build around.
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What first aid kid is everyone using?
I hate bringing kids on trips.
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Who is in charge of first aid if not the kids?
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With that silly mindset why would you even bother to prepare at all? Seriously, where do you come up with this shit? SMH
From knowing someone it happened to. Fortunately, they did tell others where they were going.
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Condoms? I thought we were in the bush roughing it... King Size Snickers wrapper and a hair tie is all you need.
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Condoms? I thought we were in the bush roughing it... King Size Snickers wrapper and a hair tie is all you need.
That's a hell of way to do birth control!
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Who is in charge of first aid if not the kids?

Jimmy - go here - you can see good kits, and they set you up with replenishment based on the exp dates...

I did my wilderness first responder and EMT training/certification through them...and have a fantastic kit for the truck.
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Old April 28th, 2016, 04:30 PM
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Jonsey - where "Here" ? no linky

i started with a store bought kit, and now have a hybrid kit that i made up as time went on.. Funny you never think you would use a cool foam splint thingie until your daughter dislocates here arm.. off to the truck and vola were headed to the ER - in reasonable comfort for her with it immobilized.
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Old April 28th, 2016, 04:56 PM
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My two cents:
For comms I have HAM and the Delorme InReach. The InReach is my go to for this stuff. I have 2 way texting with people back home, each text sends my Lat/long and a Google map w my location and then there is the SOS button. Haven't had to use that yet but glad to know it's there.

First Aid:
I'm a trauma surgeon I carry gear appropriate for my training BUT when I teach first aid my club members I focus on things that can make a realistic difference. We follow the ABC's, Airway, Breathing, Circulation. So make sure air can go in and out (A and B) and stop all bleeding ASAP. That's it for the serious stuff. So I strongly believe in tourniquets and Israeli bandages. Easy to use, highly effective, and never expire. Any bleeding you can stop in the field will be stopped with those 2 items. As for airway, oral airways and a CPR mask are all you need.

I recommend having a "trauma kit" with lots of the above and then a second smaller "boo boo"'kit with band aids and ace wraps etc. if you are ever unfortunate enough to be faced with a serious trauma in the field the last thing you want is to dig through minion band aids (I have small kids) to get to what you really need.

Training is also key as the more you know the less you need to care for someone.

*My opinion on suturing, don't do it. Unless you are days away from care and know exactly what you are doing the odds are you will create a bigger problem.

*Collapsed lungs can kill easily and are sometimes hard to diagnose so if interested learn how to spot this and how to treat with a "decompression needle". But again, get some training before stabbing someone in the chest
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Gents,

Thanks for all the good discussion and noting of survival needs.

In addition, does anyone have a written document that they or their club uses to record the essential trip data in case of emergency on the trail? Particularly info like the county Sheriff or highway patrol's phone number, park ranger headquarter's phone, and so on.

Please see the attachment as an example of what I am looking for.
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File Type: pdf Sample Trip Plan.pdf (109.9 KB, 14 views)
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No attachment.. At least via mobile..
But in diving (teaching and bigger dives) we have a written safety/what if plan

O2/gear to support until support arrives..

Diving gets complicated real quick with emergencies, and depending on depth/exposure/caves/etc can be "really complicated"
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