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Old July 11th, 2011, 12:31 PM
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I would love to make MAR one year but every time the event goes off and I hear the feedback on the trails I'm glad I stayed home. I've done the Rovers on the Rocks at RC and had a great time. Plus I can make it over to PA in a couple of hours. If I am going to use a "get out of the house for a weekend" pass and give up time from the kids it's going to have to be an amazing event and for me needs to have good trail and wheeling.
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Old July 11th, 2011, 01:22 PM
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I will likely go.

Im going down early as I have a line on another property near MAR that me and a small group (4)will be allowed to run.
You got any parts I might want you to bring?
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Old July 11th, 2011, 04:13 PM
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Hopefully we can get a little caravan from NY/NJ to head down there as I've been looking forward to this event from even just the shear perspective of wanting to meet a bunch of people from the board I've spoken to but never met in person. Also to see those again I've met before, to have some challenging trails that always seem to bring some of the smaller groups a little closer together by the end of the day, to learn a bit more from the more experienced, and to tell lies around the campfire. It'd be nice to also see some of those again who have had kids this past year, and those with new (to them) trucks.
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Old July 11th, 2011, 06:48 PM
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What is a mar?
That place you go every year around october

I don't go because of the wheeling (it's a nice to have) so I'll likely be there as usual.
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Old July 11th, 2011, 09:14 PM
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Hopefully the Williow Hill Farm will offer significantly more challenging terrane, including intermediate to advanced trails specifically.

While I have truly enjoyed attending MAR since 2004, even though I live in North Jersey, disappointingly this may be the first year I won't be attending.

Call me crazy, but I don't feel the need to "compromise" when it comes to enjoying personal time. I equally enjoy comradery and putting my rig/skills to the test during an event.

It is my hope that ROAV will create a MAR that will appeal to these two non-conflicting interests...it is this that makes for an amazing event and MAR's overwhelming success in years past.
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Old July 11th, 2011, 09:52 PM
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Will likely be there having missed out on the past year and some change of wheeling; but going more for the people than anything else. Also gives a great deadline for finishing the new truck that is almost feasible.
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Old July 11th, 2011, 10:08 PM
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Hopefully the Williow Hill Farm will offer significantly more challenging terrane, including intermediate to advanced trails specifically.
It doesn't. They will need to develop something else nearby for people to be able to wheel.
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Old July 11th, 2011, 11:15 PM
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Just a little something I've noticed.

Some of the people who claim they go to MAR for the people and not the trails seems to be the same folks who claim a place like the Cove is too "Hardcore" for their ability. If you're not going for the trails anyway, what does it matter if the trails are too hard for you or your truck? So why complain?

It's just an observation and really does not mean anything. But it is strange.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 12:02 AM
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The Cove has trails totally stock friendly.

During ROAV Halloween event, I helped guiding the run and no carnage and everyone made it safe to camp.

The real downer for me is travelling so many hours just to hang out ( no wheeling per se ).

Now, it quite bother me that many, many people who complaint about MAR last years are not expressing the frustration,.... I know they've complained to me about driving that long for no trails, like what the hell is ROAV just for the Richmond and south area members , etc ....

I truly believe the BOD of ROAV will listen to said expressions and act upon, but if people keeps quiet, they shouldn't bitch if things do not change.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 01:34 AM
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Last year MAR sucked real bad for trails. I do like seeing all you southern guys, but shit if im driving that far why not have some good wheeling too? I didn't buy a Land Rover to park it at the mall and hang out with the Honda guys. I like sitting around the camp and chatting it up with everyone late at night but I really like it when we get to wheel together... then chat about it around the camp fire.

I see a lot of guys up north at all the events, but only see the other half down at MAR. Seriously it can't be that hard to hold a good event. All we need is a good amount of trails and a place to put a tent up. I felt like last year they gave me a clearing to put my tent up and thats about it.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 04:14 AM
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Maybe someone can arrange a Sat run to Crozet?
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Maybe someone can arrange a Sat run to Crozet?
How would that be perceived for highly modified trucks to be on the roads to go wheeling?


IIRC, the 2009 MAR, forced us to take county roads for 2-3miles to get to the trails, I am not an advocate of Drinking and driving, and saw lots of it on public roads, NOW, if some Rover person is drunk and goes on the road and kills themselves ( I don't care ) but what if an innocent life is taken.

Lets all communicate with Doug, Dan Rao, Mike, Keeney, Sparky, Mark G and whomever else is involved and express our desires. If the place is already locked, then it is, if not, maybe a new venue will be chosen.

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Last year MAR sucked real bad for trails. I do like seeing all you southern guys, but shit if im driving that far why not have some good wheeling too? I didn't buy a Land Rover to park it at the mall and hang out with the Honda guys. I like sitting around the camp and chatting it up with everyone late at night but I really like it when we get to wheel together... then chat about it around the camp fire.

I see a lot of guys up north at all the events, but only see the other half down at MAR. Seriously it can't be that hard to hold a good event. All we need is a good amount of trails and a place to put a tent up. I felt like last year they gave me a clearing to put my tent up and thats about it.
I agree
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Old July 12th, 2011, 11:04 AM
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Maybe someone can arrange a Sat run to Crozet?
Better be running crozet while you have the chance...
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Old July 12th, 2011, 11:30 AM
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Lets all communicate with Doug, Dan Rao, Mike, Keeney, Sparky, Mark G and whomever else is involved and express our desires. If the place is already locked, then it is, if not, maybe a new venue will be chosen.
They're too big of pussies to make an decisions. They know Willow Hill sucks already.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 11:40 AM
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Other than the cove, is there anywhere in the state that is developed enough to handle a large group of people and has a decent trail system?
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Old July 12th, 2011, 12:50 PM
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I know you guys don't want to hear this the trails at Oakridge were nice. I met more people there than any other event. Mostly because you signed up to wheel and other people you never met signed up at that time also. Don't get me wrong I like wheeling with people who I know their strengths and weaknesses are. but it also nice to learn about other people. Ya see if I had just read the fourm postings. I would have said that F***ing Chapman was a total asshole. Now that I met him I know he is. LOL just kiddin from what I seen in person he might be alright.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 04:05 PM
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The big problem with Oak Ridge is the Cost of the venue. Throw in the cost of the trail guides and it becomes too expensive, not to mention the dislike of having to use trail guides. Don't get me wrong, I run at Oak Ridge when ever I can, but until they change how they run the operation I do not think it is a doable thing for MAR. Yes I agree the trails at Willow Farm are a little lame. I will still be going to see people I haven't seen in a while, but then again it is about an hour from the house. I hope some other trails will become available? One can hope... Yes, Dan I know....
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Old July 12th, 2011, 09:28 PM
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Oakridge would be an excellent venue for a Mar or any other event. Lots of trails for all levels of Mods. Who gives a Rats ass if the trails were guided, every group has a leed truck anyway, and those guys knew the trails, had the keys , and were very helpful. I would love the chance to get back there again.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 10:39 PM
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Oakridge would be an excellent venue for a Mar or any other event. Lots of trails for all levels of Mods. Who gives a Rats ass if the trails were guided, every group has a leed truck anyway, and those guys knew the trails, had the keys , and were very helpful. I would love the chance to get back there again.
i agree 100% loved everything except the rover nazis that wouldn't let us keep our tow vehicles in the infield with our camp. that was bs.
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Yea I liked Oakridge, get rid of the flowers and the Grey Poupon
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