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Old February 16th, 2011, 12:22 AM
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Hope all of you comedian have nice Level III vests *LOL*
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Old February 16th, 2011, 07:20 AM
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Huh? What's silly? Being prepared and responsible?
Nope, the carrying around signed forms at all times in your vehicle.
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Who are these to be presented too? Do you need to present your papers on command? If you don't carry your papers with you will you be shot as a spy? I've wheeled with OCC before and never had to have any forms. But at the time I was member of another club that never requires forms.
Talking about prepared, I went on the Valentines day run a couple of years ago with OCC. Guess who had the only chain saw?
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Old February 16th, 2011, 07:54 AM
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Sounds like Kevlar BVDs might not be a bad idea either.

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Old February 16th, 2011, 08:24 AM
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Sounds like Kevlar BVDs might not be a bad idea either.
Only if you forget your papers.
Have fun everyone. I might see you up there.
Don't forget a chainsaw. Its been pretty windy this week.
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Old February 16th, 2011, 08:38 AM
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Look, put your big boy pants on for a minute. This is the first trail ride Pedro is leading, and he is just following the rules. Yes OCC requires non-members to bring waivers and medical forms with you and hand them to the trail leader. If you were not asked to do this before, then that person was not following the rules. I am guilty of doing this myself. But that doesn't make it silly, or a bad thing, or anything else that warrants your stupid reaction.

You can go to the OCC site and read about this yourself if interested.

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Nope, the carrying around signed forms at all times in your vehicle.

Who are these to be presented too? Do you need to present your papers on command? If you don't carry your papers with you will you be shot as a spy? I've wheeled with OCC before and never had to have any forms. But at the time I was member of another club that never requires forms.
Talking about prepared, I went on the Valentines day run a couple of years ago with OCC. Guess who had the only chain saw?
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Old February 16th, 2011, 09:25 AM
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im tentative right now. should be at hh tomorrow night.

no BS...about 3 years ago my buddies and I saw a stock saturn 2 door coupe make it to flagpole. then again, my guess was the driver (and passengers) werent exactly in a sober state of mind.
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Old February 16th, 2011, 09:27 AM
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Based on the OCC siliness I'm out. You'll probably see me fishing if I'm back in town.
It's not silly... it's for everyone's safety and well being. The forms are there for YOUR protection. God forbid you fall and hit your head... who are we supposed to contact?

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Huh? What's silly? Being prepared and responsible?
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Nope, the carrying around signed forms at all times in your vehicle.

Who are these to be presented too? Do you need to present your papers on command? If you don't carry your papers with you will you be shot as a spy? I've wheeled with OCC before and never had to have any forms. But at the time I was member of another club that never requires forms.
Talking about prepared, I went on the Valentines day run a couple of years ago with OCC. Guess who had the only chain saw?
I don't understand why you are bashing OCC... when Rausch Creek Off Road Park, Big Dogs and others ask for the same thing...

http://www.rauschcreekoffroadpark.org/sis/mem.php

http://bigdogsoffroad.com/html/event_signup.html
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Old February 16th, 2011, 09:29 AM
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I guess I can probably do without a front recovery point then...haven't had time to fit one to the front of my chassis yet.
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Old February 16th, 2011, 09:29 AM
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What are you get so upset for? just told you to have fun. Enjoy your day. If you see me up there we can discuss my choice of pants. They will most likely be bdu's with hip waderws over them.

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Sounds like Kevlar BVDs might not be a bad idea either.
Only if you forget your papers.
Have fun everyone. I might see you up there.
Don't forget a chainsaw. Its been pretty windy this week.
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Old February 16th, 2011, 09:32 AM
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Have fun everyone. I might see you up there.
Don't forget a chainsaw. Its been pretty windy this week.
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What are you get so upset for? just told you to have fun. Enjoy your day. If you see me up there we can discuss my choice of pants. They will most likely be bdu's with hip waderws over them.
We are not upset... at least I'm not. (can safely bet Charles isn't either). See you at the top.

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Don't forget a chainsaw. Its been pretty windy this week.
Jeff, I heard at the meeting you have one... please bring it.

Thanks for the heads-up.
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Old February 16th, 2011, 09:52 AM
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What are you get so upset for? just told you to have fun. Enjoy your day. If you see me up there we can discuss my choice of pants. They will most likely be bdu's with hip waderws over them.
I'm not upset, but I find your comments immature and asinine (although amusing that you won't recant or defend them). I look forward to meeting you and discussing that in person.

We'll have fun thanks, and you too. Be safe.

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p.s. Yes I know at least one person is bringing a chain saw.
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Old February 16th, 2011, 10:08 AM
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What do I need to defend or recant? The idea behind your forms are sound and requiring people to have that stuff is fine too even for a trail ride on fire roads. What I find silly is requiring them to have the papers on them. I don't get this.
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Old February 16th, 2011, 10:16 AM
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Ok, I'll explain.

One form is a liability waiver which you have to sign. It says you won't sue OCC if you get hurt etc. Standard stuff. How do you propose this signed form gets given to the club? In person is quite reasonable - do you find that silly?

The other form is a medical form to better give you assistance if you get hurt. You can list medications you are alergic to, give a point of contact etc. You keep this in your truck so if you hurt youself, someone can find it - do you find that silly?

And are these so onerous (or "silly") that they are reasons to not join a group of like minded people wheeling? THAT I find silly
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Old February 16th, 2011, 10:43 AM
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Ok, I'll explain.

One form is a liability waiver which you have to sign. It says you won't sue OCC if you get hurt etc. Standard stuff. How do you propose this signed form gets given to the club? In person is quite reasonable - do you find that silly?

The other form is a medical form to better give you assistance if you get hurt. You can list medications you are alergic to, give a point of contact etc. You keep this in your truck so if you hurt youself, someone can find it - do you find that silly?

And are these so onerous (or "silly") that they are reasons to not join a group of like minded people wheeling? THAT I find silly
If someone wants to sue they will Sue. This is unfortunate but it happens. That signed piece of paper will mean nothing in court. The medical thing isn't a bad idea either but don't they have bracelets for this?
Just to mention, I am a member of SV4W.
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Old February 16th, 2011, 10:46 AM
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I guess I can probably do without a front recovery point then...haven't had time to fit one to the front of my chassis yet.

You do have a recovery point on your frame ( IIRC )

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What are you get so upset for? just told you to have fun. Enjoy your day. If you see me up there we can discuss my choice of pants. They will most likely be bdu's with hip waderws over them.

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Only if you forget your papers.
Have fun everyone. I might see you up there.
Don't forget a chainsaw. Its been pretty windy this week.
Walter, please don't wear the Pink Camo pants.... Chapman will be jealous and looking for you
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Old February 16th, 2011, 10:52 AM
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If someone wants to sue they will Sue. This is unfortunate but it happens. That signed piece of paper will mean nothing in court.
If you think it means nothing, then you should be happy to sign one right?

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The medical thing isn't a bad idea either but don't they have bracelets for this?
How about you go look at the form and see if you could fit more than 10% of the info on a bracelet. It's a lot more useful than a bracelet.

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Just to mention, I am a member of SV4W.
Great, but not relevant to the discussion at hand.

So I still don't get what is silly, so silly in fact that you object to wheeling with us and make a point of it. You say you have wheeled with OCC before - was it a bad experience? Please don't take this as me trying to get you to come. I really don't care, and based on your arguments perhaps it's best you don't, but your position still strikes me as strange at best. If you don't want to wheel with us that's great - just say so
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Old February 16th, 2011, 11:02 AM
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If you think it means nothing, then you should be happy to sign one right?


How about you go look at the form and see if you could fit more than 10% of the info on a bracelet. It's a lot more useful than a bracelet.


Great, but not relevant to the discussion at hand.

So I still don't get what is silly, so silly in fact that you object to wheeling with us and make a point of it. You say you have wheeled with OCC before - was it a bad experience? Please don't take this as me trying to get you to come. I really don't care, and based on your arguments perhaps it's best you don't, but your position still strikes me as strange at best. If you don't want to wheel with us that's great - just say so
Sorry. I didn't realize this was an OCC run. I thought it was just some people getting together to wheel. This is where I thought forms would be silly. Since this is a club run, your forms make a little more sense to me. Have a great time.
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Old February 16th, 2011, 11:43 AM
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p.s. Yes I know at least one person is bringing a chain saw.
did you buy one yet? I need a new chain if I am going to bring mine and not sure I will have time to get one before we roll.

Charles, if you are going to buy one this week, let me know as I will give you the specs on mine so you can get me a chain!
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No, got too much going to to make the time to go get one. My friend/neighbor Ed is bringing his.
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good...if I get time I will grab a new chain or two but good to have one just in case.
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