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Old April 30th, 2012, 08:52 PM
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Looks like a great truck, and a nice SG brush bar....


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Old April 30th, 2012, 08:58 PM
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I was seriously hoping you'd keep the soft top! Nothing said trail rig like duct tape!!!!
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Old April 30th, 2012, 09:08 PM
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WRITTEN DETAIL TO COMPLIMENT THE PICS:

So the deal is back on as of late last night/first thing this morning (I'll skip the details here, suddenly at this point not important and does not compare with the entertainment value to come).

I'll also back up by saying that like anything, I do the sh*t out of my homework and read up on NAS 90s to no end in recent months (admittedly I know Series, I know imports, but NAS I'm just getting up to speed on). Came up with a list of "things to check" and "things to do" during my research, and particularly with the truck I was looking at. I used Galpin as a sounding board for everything, and even have some email back and forth with him from literally last week about one item in particular. I pointed this out to the seller, and had it at the top of my "to do list".

So I pick up the truck, hop in and head out (as is evidenced by the "before" picture). I get - literally - 2 miles down the road, and look in my rear view mirror and smoke is billowing EVERYWHERE. Immediate instinct was something with the exhaust, as I knew it needed some minor repairs. THEN it starts coming out of the engine compartment, filling up the passenger compartment, and I knew IMMEDIATELY what it was - OIL COOLER LINES. These are what I had pointed out to the seller as original and in need of replacement. It's also what I had pinged Charles Galpin with as well, and he got me up to speed - and ironically (or probably, thankfully) he had told me a play-by-play story when we were chatting about when it happened to him in his 90. Literally he walked me through the story the other week, about how the billowing smoke was tell-tale for the lines, he shut the ignition off quickly, and flew to the side of the road, and dumped a fire extinguisher in the engine bay and saved the situation.

Fast forward, as soon as it happened to me the story he told literally replayed in my head (crazy how that stuff happens). I shut off the ignition while underway (leaving it in the position to keep the steering wheel from locking), cut across 3 lanes of traffic, hopped the curb and up on the grass/shoulder. The other thing that went through my head was "thank god I got this on my insurance policy immediately, though how's it going to look when 2 days later it's up in flames!".

Being literally 2 miles into the journey on a new truck, I start looking around frantically for a fire extinguisher. Mind you, this truck is piled high with gear that came with it - full set of 35" tires, extra tops, hilift jacks, etc, etc, etc. Finding nothing (turns out was behind the passenger seat, but buried...let this be a lesson - of course in all my current cars I have them at hand and within easy reach, but this was brand new to me and didn't lay it out yet), I hop out looking for dirt/etc something to throw on the possible car-b-q if need be. Smoke is still billowing out so at this point I figure it's going to be a waiting game, since no extinguisher and not much I can do. Immediately I then decide to call 9-1-1, and it goes something like this:

Operator: "911, what's your emergency?"
Me: "I think my car is on fire!!!"
Operator: "where are you calling from?"
Me: "Spout Run parkway heading due south, it's route 124, I'm about 500 yards north of the intersection with GW Parkway!!! Hurry!!"
Operator: "oh, that's Arlington...you've reached DC dispatch, I'll have to put you on hold, transfer you, or you can call back another time".
Me: "What???!!!..."

Then realize they are going to be absolutely no help, so hang up and decide to sit tight. After a few minutes the smoke dissipates, but I still sit tight. I've been through this before (my dad had an original H1 Hummer when they first came out early 1990s, blew a tranny line, and as soon as the hood & doors opened oxygen fed the flames and went up in an inferno - the fire department were the ones that did this by the way, ridiculous). Figuring not much I can do, wait it out and see. After about 15 minutes, I figure things have to be over. Pop the hood and realize I was lucky as sh*t...oil spewed EVERYWHERE, but was all smoke and zero fire - things were in perfect shape (sans the oil mess).

I can only attribute the outcome to my prior conversation with Charles that played through my head and shutting things down immediately when it started to happen it stopped pumping the oil, plus the car was only 2 miles into the trip so things weren't *that* hot yet. But hell that was a ton of smoke, and dodged a HUGE bullet (i.e. car-b-q).

The ultimate irony here was that we're heading to Rausch on Thursday, and replacing the oil cooler lines was literally at the top of my list - ideally I was going to do it this evening or tomorrow morning, drop off to a local place (Tipco...I had already spoken with them).

Obviously this accelerated things - but this happened at 12:30pm, by 1:45pm AAA picked me up, back to the house by 2:15pm, oil cooler lines pulled by 4pm, dropped off to Tipco by 4:30pm, and they'll have them done tomorrow afternoon by 2! And the Rausch trip is not impacted .

------ Follow up post added April 30th, 2012 09:10 PM ------

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Glad to hear it was just a smoker and not a car-b-q.

That's what you get for dissing the red and yellow

White is still my favorite color on a defender (on and off a flatbed), despite the fact you own two.
I definitely think my red/yellow comment may have brought things on . And I do apparently like white, it's technically my 3rd white car currently (6th white car overall). I also like white better than charcoal!

------ Follow up post added April 30th, 2012 09:11 PM ------

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I was seriously hoping you'd keep the soft top! Nothing said trail rig like duct tape!!!!
Don't worry....the duct-tape top is piled under the 35s (which can be seen in one of the pics). It will live on!

------ Follow up post added April 30th, 2012 09:15 PM ------

Crazy thing is...those lines could've blown 2 months ago, 2 days ago, or 2 months from now. Granted, it's a lesson to ANYONE that has not replaced them to do so. A friend of the seller kept telling him they needed to be replaced, I seriously mentioned it like 3-4 times in our talks (one of which, when the deal was "off", was to the effect of 'do yourself a favor and get that done immediately'). I'm just glad it stopped before anything flamed up, there was no one else in the car, and things didn't end badly. I have to be honest, I was actually laughing about it by 2:15pm when it was off the truck and in my garage and I was ripping the old lines out. If the prior seller had been driving it, I can guarantee he would not have know what it was or what to do...and the truck probably would've went up in flames - and one less NAS would have been on the road. I'm thinking I saved that cars' ass...it owes me!
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Old April 30th, 2012, 09:29 PM
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Old April 30th, 2012, 09:36 PM
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Just imagine if it had happened during the test drive!!!! That would have been something.

PS that 911 call reminds me of that dude who died a month or so ago in his Discovery when the accelerator stuck and he called 911 instead of trying to figure out the solution. They're useless.
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Old April 30th, 2012, 09:39 PM
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Just imagine if it had happened during the test drive!!!! That would have been something.
Jesus...no kidding, I hadn't even thought of that! The seller totally thought I was f'ing with him - I called him at about the 5 minute mark after it happened, I was still pretty rattled and was somewhat in the midst of it. After the 3rd "I'm not joking, it's really happening" he finally believed me...after the roller coaster of things, I could hardly believe it myself.
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Old April 30th, 2012, 10:58 PM
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Wow! Glad it all turned out ok, talk about a close call.
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Old April 30th, 2012, 11:24 PM
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I'm thinking I saved that cars' ass...it owes me!
That's the kind of thinking that will get you in trouble!

In all seriousness, that's an incredible story. Glad you we're able to stay cool and figure things out quickly!
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I heard he showed up and brought marshmallows.
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Once he realized you were serious did he
A) offer to come help
2) want more money for the truck

-Jeff
He muttered something about s'mores not being for free, and I would receive a bill in the mail.
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Old April 30th, 2012, 11:48 PM
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PS that 911 call reminds me of that dude who died a month or so ago in his Discovery when the accelerator stuck and he called 911 instead of trying to figure out the solution. They're useless.
This just reminded me...no joke, this happened to Cabell in his Disco when we were at Uwharrie running the trails and he was right behind me a couple weeks ago and his accelerator got stuck. We were hitting some of the bumps, I hear this rev'ing...at first think he's just goose'ing it having fun, look in my rear view and see his grill HUGE in my mirror and then go flying off in the woods.

I immediately realize something is up and he's almost up against this tree with the motor bouncing the rpm's off the limiter. Likewise, his quick thinking rather than plowing full speed into the back of my 110 was to aim of to the woods, drop it in neutral, brake hard, and say his prayers. Super close call, and he had his two little girls in the car so quick thinking on his part averted a disaster.
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So the take home lesson is that it's no longer good enough to drive your truck home after purchasing it, but you should either just flat tow it directly home (or to a shop), or bring some new lines, an oil pan, and a jug of oil with you and change them before leaving

In all seriousness, you handled it very well which is probably the only reason we can joke about it now.

I did find it funny when you called me in the heat of the moment asking my thoughts on if you should just have it towed back to the PO and to walk from the deal. Once I heard he and the truck were ok, I told him it wasn't a deal breaker or a show stopper for me and that it didn't change anything he had planned (other than saving gas on the way home) and to hurry up and get the lines off and take them to Tipco. Best not to call a guy who has had 3 (small) engine fires and lived to talk about it for sympathy
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Cool that Lav handled this like a pro, nobody was hurt, we didn't lose yet another NAS ST. But if it did burn up, it would be one of the better "as-is, where-is" stories for the PO as he counts his green backs within sight of the smoke cloud.
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Wow, glad we did not lose another NAS Truck. Same thing happended to me about 5 years ago, and got real lucky. No damage. Now I carry an extinguisher when collecting every one we buy and immediately replace the lines on them.
Even the 97s, though I have never heard of one catching fire. Better to be safe.

We bought a very nice low mile 94 recently from a guy whoose previous 90 burned. Amazingly, he did not learn anything and did not have the lines replaced on this one. Crazy.
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This happened to me in Frank's 90 just a few weeks ago. Exciting, but no major damage, just a mess to clean up. After the adrenaline wore off, I realised one could remove the adaptor for the oil cooler lines from under the oil filter, screw the filter back on and keep going.
Jason, I'm about 45 minutes from Rausch, near Hersey, if you run into any difficulties. Or, if I get the brakes sorted out on the Disco, I could join you! 410.227.2523 is my mobile.
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Trevor, we will be rolling in to RC on Friday night if you are around...Lav will be with Charles and I in case we need to raid your place for parts!
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This happened to me in Frank's 90 just a few weeks ago. Exciting, but no major damage, just a mess to clean up. After the adrenaline wore off, I realised one could remove the adaptor for the oil cooler lines from under the oil filter, screw the filter back on and keep going.
Jason, I'm about 45 minutes from Rausch, near Hersey, if you run into any difficulties. Or, if I get the brakes sorted out on the Disco, I could join you! 410.227.2523 is my mobile.
Trevor:

I will defintely take you up on that offer to be a life-line of needed. And like Jeff said, get the Disco sorted and join us!
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Wow crazy story, glad all is ok. I am off to go buy a fire extinguisher to keep in the truck.
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I realised one could remove the adaptor for the oil cooler lines from under the oil filter, screw the filter back on and keep going.
This is the easiest way forward. The lines on bryson were rubbing on an AC line (or at least too close for me) so I just pulled it all.
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Lav like dog named rover, it was marking it's turf...lol... I have those figging lines on my lwb, althou they are not leaking, the thought is always on my mind and the need for replacing them... on the other hand I do have the blank plugs to eliminate those suckers.
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