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Old November 29th, 2012, 06:29 PM
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WISHING somebody would make some of these...

Everybody makes mistakes in their life. Mine was a high maintenance financial black hole known on the street as a "G Wagon". A succubus that made me think that I loved her, merely to trick me into purchasing more and more upgrades. One of those little upgrades was an always handy lockable spare tire storage compartment. Clever, really. The spare on G's are mounted with the face of the wheel facing in towards the door. This allowed for a contraption such as this to fit inside the wheel:


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It came in handy often and allowed me to keep things tidy and accessible. I usually kept recovery gear and emergency supplies stuffed in there. I'd add some rubber seals to this storage cover though as it wasn't exactly element proof. I guess you could toss on a spare cover over the spare cover (redundant, I know) to help out.

I realize that Defenders (and other Landys) have their spare mounted differently, however was wondering why the heck couldn't something like this be adapted for our rides. I've seen a lot of really creative people on this board that do some amazing fabricating of parts. Seems relatively possible to adapt to a Landy...

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I'd buy one of these in a heartbeat for either a rear door spare or bonnet spare if somebody were to market these. Pricepoint is at about $500 for the Mercedes one. They came in keyless or keyed locks. One of the other upgrades you could get for the carrier was a sticker that mimicked the wheel you had on your truck. In Land Rover terms, it's be neat to have a nice realistic sticker of a Boost alloy on the carrier if somebody (meeeee for example) were running Boosts.

Another neat contraption that I had on my truck was a side utility rack. This could also be modified for a Landy. Nifty little thing when it comes to holding water or gas tanks or even tools. It was removable and bolted onto the rain gutter. I'd keep two 4-Gallon Rotopax gas cans attached. The major flaw in the design of this side utility rack (IMO) was that while the top was securely bolted down to the rain gutter, the bottom was held on by commercial grade Velcro...

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Pricing on these are at $350. The 10-Gallon aux water tank seen here is at $750:

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Giving credit where credit is due, Karl Volger is the man behind this Mercedes beauty. His website is http://www.g-wagenaccessories.com.

It'd be awesome if a board member here ran with these ideas. It'd be most awesomist if I got a free (or at cost) sample once completed...hehe. I would also volunteer for testing as well.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 06:33 PM
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Vw made a fuel can that fit into the spare.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 06:46 PM
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Thats akin to having to completely empty the glove box to get the spare off. And those ironing boards seem a pit pricey.

-Jeff
Get the spare off? I think you missed the point. You'd find a way to mount the spare facing inward.

As for a glovebox, I believe only the "new" Defenders have those. My 97 has a center console that struggles to hold even a pen.

Can't argue with you about the price point though.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 07:14 PM
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It looks like all of the crap in that cubby (ie glovebox) needs to come out to get the spare off.

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how about you stored gloves, coveralls and other paraphernalia used for changing the wheel in there ...
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Old November 29th, 2012, 07:20 PM
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It looks like all of the crap in that cubby (ie glovebox) needs to come out to get the spare off.

-Jeff
Gotcha. It does. Perhaps this design could be upgraded with a round plastic tray insert that pulls out for quick access. Besides, I never (knock on wood) needed to change my tire. I did, however, need my tow straps and winch gloves occasionally.

I'm just throwing some ideas out there. Thought it an interesting one is all.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 07:46 PM
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I love g wagons, however the things on the side are pretty cheesy. They remind me of the beverly hillbillys driving down the road with stuff hanging off of everywhere.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 08:08 PM
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I love g wagons, however the things on the side are pretty cheesy. They remind me of the beverly hillbillys driving down the road with stuff hanging off of everywhere.
True, HOWEVER, I liked having my gas cans on the side as opposed to the roof for both accessibility and safety. And in the event of having a roof top tent or roof rack filled with stuff, it makes more sense. I didn't have a tent, but having the gas on the side was awesome when I was off roading all day or went out with my dirt bikes.

The Kolpin style gas cans are neat too because I've found that you can mix and match what cans you want. You can mix and match with gas, water, oil, kerosene and storage. For example you can opt to go for the locking cans and have gas in one and kerosene in the other:
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The 10-Gal water tank that is shown in the post above is nice for a multitude of reasons too. I never purchased one, but could be handy on expeditions. Especially with the back paint warming up the water for a toasty shower (although I guess you'd have to be pretty short to use it).

Now, with the spare storage, it was so much easier for me than having to open up the back door and grab my winching or towing stuff. Especially when all that stuff gets so muddy anyway after you use it. The G was carpeted and didn't have any rubber mats. Hosing out the inside of the truck after an adventure sure wasn't an option. I feel this would translate to Land Rovers for all the same reasons, plus the fact that we (SWB owners) don't have as much room to store stuff inside the truck.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 08:26 PM
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Thats akin to having to completely empty the glove box to get the spare off.

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Here's a solution for that. Could be an insert.

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Some holes could be drilled into the tray as well to help with ventilation, drying and would allow you to use the tray as a device to help you wash your muddy gear. Dirty tow straps? Put them in the tray and hose them off. Put the tray back in your storage carrier and everything will be clean and dry next time you go to use it. Like an off roading spaghetti colander.

Before I had one of these I used a plastic milk crate in my trunk. Good old Gottlieb Daimler and Karl Benz would roll over in their grave if they saw me. Plus it totally killed my chances hitting on moms at Starbucks...
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Old November 29th, 2012, 08:27 PM
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Wasn't wolf looking for something like that skate tire carrier?
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RotoPax makes those fuel packs also, in addition they have gear packs in the same configuration and they have mounting plates...etc...
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Old November 29th, 2012, 08:39 PM
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Another G version (although this one resembles a toilet seat):

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Plus, I don't really understand how it would stay in the wheel...
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Old November 29th, 2012, 08:42 PM
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Another G version (although this one resembles a toilet seat):

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Plus, I don't really understand how it would stay in the wheel...
thats just what I've been looking for...lol...
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RotoPax makes those fuel packs also, in addition they have gear packs in the same configuration and they have mounting plates...etc...
I have the RotoPax version. Kolpin is the other one. I have two 4-Gallon Rotopax gas cans mounted in my SD rack with their double mounting plate. I think the cans work great, but you can't use those ECO spouts they give you. Gotta go with the conventional spout. Too dark for pics tonight, but can post this week. I really like them.

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thats just what I've been looking for...lol...
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Old November 29th, 2012, 09:35 PM
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Or if somebody (Jeff Payne, Wolf, etc...) could fabricate a way to mount the spare "backwards", then maybe Karl (G-Wagon dude) could supply the tire storage part. I'm sure some sort of a deal could be worked out between the Germans and British.

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Yea, I figured you as a bumper dumper kind of guy!

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Rotopax coupon code EBAY usually gets you 10% off by the way.
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Brandon,

Are you familiar with "Pelican" *LOL*


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Old December 2nd, 2012, 04:46 PM
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I must be a blonde. I don't get it...
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I mean, any items that could fit in that well space, will certainly fit in a nice Pelican for substantially less mula.

Granted you will not be able to lock the defender and leave the keys in the compartment, but if that is what you need ( keys, wallet. etc ) go for the one on top of the wing
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 11:16 PM
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Hey, for $200 plus flight, MUD-UK is doing ok. I wish a board member would start making those for cheaper...
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