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Old May 5th, 2011, 04:18 PM
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Wanted: Jerry Can Bracket for SG Tire Carrier

This thread will be used for two purposes. One, I'd like to see if someone has a solution or a bracket available that was made for the Safari Gard / SafariGard / SG Tire Carrier to secure the Jerry Cans.

The other purpose is to show Todd how mine are currently held in place with racheting straps and S-hooks, and locked in with the same cord for the Hi-Lift, as we wait for brackets.
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They let you cross into NYC with that?

The regulation for a fuel tank hold down is that the brackets/mount must be able to withstand an impact 8x the weight of the fuel+tank any given direction. I don't think your ratchet straps quite make that requirement. A commonly seen bracket that meets this requirement is on most RV's that have the hold downs with the all thread and the big ass wing nut.

Good luck finding the right bracket. I would look at having one custom made.


This is a nice set-up http://www.expeditionexchange.com/jerrycanholders/
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They let you cross into NYC with that?

The regulation for a fuel tank hold down is that the brackets/mount must be able to withstand an impact 8x the weight of the fuel+tank any given direction. I don't think your ratchet straps quite make that requirement. A commonly seen bracket that meets this requirement is on most RV's that have the hold downs with the all thread and the big ass wing nut.

Good luck finding the right bracket. I would look at having one custom made.
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They let you cross into NYC with that?

The regulation for a fuel tank hold down is that the brackets/mount must be able to withstand an impact 8x the weight of the fuel+tank any given direction.
Yes, I tested the strength while you let me play with your powerwasher.

Also, The Port Authority NY/NJ don't allow you to go through tunnels (last I checked) and only the upper level of the GWB if memory serves me right, with gas in an aux carrier. As long as I don't have fuel in there across the border, it's not an issue. I've never tested that theory though.

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Yeah, I've seen that one in the past, but he doesn't do mail order. I'll call Holly's replacement if nothing turns up here. There are lots of SG carriers around, surely someone has come up with a better solution than what I have.
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Get 2 of these, Paint them black, upgrade your cans to plastic ones, and have Badger make you a Gerry can cover to protect the new cans from UV...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JEEP-...ssoriesQQvilZ1
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Why do you even carry them if you have an aux gas tank? Are you afraid of running out while driving the one mile from hoboken to NYC?
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Yeah, I've seen that one in the past, but he doesn't do mail order. I'll call Holly's replacement if nothing turns up here. There are lots of SG carriers around, surely someone has come up with a better solution than what I have.

You should call to see if they will make it. ECR no longer has the "no mail order ever" signature. The times/economy must have changed.
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The Jerry cans will always work. I cannot ensure that the aux tank will always work as a back-up.
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For the epic trips across the GW? Yes I know it is more than I do in my truck.
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Ha, no...more for long(er) trips through areas that I do not know well, or as a back-up if I'll be driving late at night with spotty chance of open gas stations. They stay empty most of the time, but I'm not going to keep them in my living room when not in use!
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Get 2 of these, Paint them black, upgrade your cans to plastic ones, and have Badger make you a Gerry can cover to protect the new cans from UV...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JEEP-...ssoriesQQvilZ1

LOL be sure to put a good coat of wax on before putting the badger jerry can covers on.

Josh not sure what design you favor. I got a couple of cool aluminum jerry can holders from Martyn @ Adventure trailers. Very nice-and fit both regular cans like yours and Scepter MFC's.

They offered powder coated black, or mine are natural aluminum. They are around $100 ea as I recall which given the old army od ones seem to be nearly $50 on ebay now seems like a deal. Can be mounted @ any angle and lockable.

http://www.adventuretrailers.com/pag...r/can_holders/
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I thought those ATs looked familiar...maybe it was from your truck. Saw them painted over on ih8mud. They don't look half bad:

http://forum.ih8mud.com/trailer-tech...r-trailer.html

In my first post, pics 4 and 5, you can see the loops that are welded into the tire carrier. Are those to be used for a SG-specific holder, or something else? Anyone know?
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i have a local fabricator that is willing to put into production a new and improved rear tire/gas can whatever holder - he used to modify ones for west coast rovers back in the day - he is looking for someone with a existing sg rear tire carrier to use as a template -

he is making me some scepter gas can mounts/straps for my sankey trailer - Ill go by and snap some pictures at lunch time and post them for josh

but if anyone local has a sg tire carrier I would be interested in going over there with him and going over what people want changed or how to improve it and see what prices he could give us if we got them

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Thanks, Jay. There was a recent thread listing out most of the things that would be an improvement over the last SG tire carrier, mainly better access to the rear latch, etc. that would be a good starting point for suggestions.

Unless we're all talking about the same guy, it seems as though there are a few people looking to duplicate the SG tire carrier, or have the plan currently in the works.

Yeah, post up those pics when you get a chance. Mine are NATO though, not Scepter.

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some good suggestions in here:

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=29771
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I thought Oliver abandoned the idea of making it as well.
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He may have. I havne't heard names dropped, but have been told and read in a few separate instances that someone is looking to make a redesigned version, inspired by the original. May all be the same person, not Oliver.
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Yes it looks like Oliver in Durango has scrapped the idea; too expensive to setup a jig................Josh I have 2 AT holders for Scepter cans they just dont fit in the SG carrier very well especially w/ a 35" tire. I really like the look of ECR's. My carrier has the tabs too but never have figured out if they are for something specifically!
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here are a couple photos of how he mounted them -

send me a sketch of what you were thinking

I would think you could use a similar base and have a frame come up all 4 sides with the latches mounting to the frame around the cans
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I was thinking a little more minimalist than that.

FYI, there's a dude selling the 20L NATOs for cheaper than I've seen anywhere else ($49), and Free shipping if 4 or more are bought.

http://www.deutscheoptik.com/product...oducts_id=2162
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