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Old August 2nd, 2013, 07:34 PM
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Folks...

I'm looking for the Rover Torqueflite 727 Transmission and LT230, 1.003 ratio, transfercase that came in the 1982-1988 RRCs.

I already have the 727 motor adapter.

Let me know what you have.
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Old August 5th, 2013, 12:30 PM
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I'll add some details.

I don't need a TF727, nor a LT230-1.003. I asked for them already mated, just in case I've missed a part here or there.

I already have a motor connected to the TF727. The tail housing I've got it's for a Dana/Spicer 20.

I'm looking for the TF727 tail housing with tail shaft and output shaft so I can connect the TF727 to the LT230.

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Old August 5th, 2013, 01:03 PM
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Hard to find is likely an understatement.
Ashcroft?
Didn't know they kept them until 1988.
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Old August 5th, 2013, 01:49 PM
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Hard to find is likely an understatement.
Ashcroft?
Didn't know they kept them until 1988.
I might be in luck... I found someone that has one. But it's not 100%.

I didn't see anything in Ashcroft's webpage. I'll drop them a line.

I got that info from the "interweb"... So it's got to be true.
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Old August 5th, 2013, 02:13 PM
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I think you messaged me on PBB?

I have everything but the output shaft for the trans. I was under the impression that it was a Jeep part but I am no longer certain. It may have been a 2 piece shaft that worked with the original IH output shaft.

That is a weird photo. A 727 behind an Isuzu?
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Old August 5th, 2013, 03:31 PM
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Here is a good post where Ian Ashcroft corrects some of my misunderstanding of how these 727 setups work. The most interesting pieces of the setup are how the engine to 727 adapter clocks the transmission a bit, the special pan, and the solid from driveshaft.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/land-...350-rrc-2.html
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Old August 5th, 2013, 03:47 PM
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Another option you may want to look at is ditching the factory stuff and using a 727 Dodge tailhousing with an adapter plate and spud shaft to the LT230. I did this on my A518 (overdrive 727) equipped 109 to fit an LT230. Worked slick. Plus you could swap in the overdrive as well. I have a shaft I would sell you for 100 bucks, and the adapter plate is a snap to make. Then at least you would have an OD!
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Old August 5th, 2013, 03:53 PM
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I think you messaged me on PBB?

I have everything but the output shaft for the trans. I was under the impression that it was a Jeep part but I am no longer certain. It may have been a 2 piece shaft that worked with the original IH output shaft.

That is a weird photo. A 727 behind an Isuzu?
JL, yes that was me.

Ohh crap, did I confused you with someone else?

Someone emailed me that they only had the tail housing.

Yes, that's an Isuzu diesel mated to the 727.

Anywhoo...

I'm waiting on an answer from the person that has the whole setup. He's somewhat local.

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Here is a good post where Ian Ashcroft corrects some of my misunderstanding of how these 727 setups work. The most interesting pieces of the setup are how the engine to 727 adapter clocks the transmission a bit, the special pan, and the solid from driveshaft.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/land-...350-rrc-2.html
I'll read that post from Pirate
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I have the tail housing, the mounts, the shifter, the front driveshaft, and a bunch of other stuff. The T case I am keeping. As much as I'd like to see this stuff used, I think that some sort of an OD will be crucial.

I will take some pics now that I know what you are after.

So? Airport tug application?
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Old August 5th, 2013, 04:04 PM
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I have the tail housing, the mounts, the shifter, the front driveshaft, and a bunch of other stuff. The T case I am keeping. As much as I'd like to see this stuff used, I think that some sort of an OD will be crucial.

I will take some pics now that I know what you are after.

So? Airport tug application?
I'll PM you my email.

No. The TF727 was modiefied by Art Carr and was in a Scout.
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Old August 5th, 2013, 04:22 PM
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BTW... I'm not 100% sure...

But I read that the IH and Rover have the same tail shaft.

If this is true, in theory I can use a Rover output shaft.
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Yes, but in some circles we call it a 109"

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Old August 5th, 2013, 04:29 PM
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Here is a good post where Ian Ashcroft corrects some of my misunderstanding of how these 727 setups work. The most interesting pieces of the setup are how the engine to 727 adapter clocks the transmission a bit, the special pan, and the solid from driveshaft.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/land-...350-rrc-2.html
If I got Ian's post right... I need to rotate the transmission 12deg and that's no bueno.
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Old August 5th, 2013, 11:22 PM
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Old August 6th, 2013, 10:34 AM
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Found this pic on Pirate.

It looks like the Rover TF727 has a Dana/Spicer 20 tail housing and an adapter plate to mate to the LT230.
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Update: I got this today.

It looks like the IH Scout 2 tail housing I have will mate to the LT230 via this adapter.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 11:32 AM
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Jeepers that set up is long. Your front drive shaft is going to be longer than the rear
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Old August 6th, 2013, 12:25 PM
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727 is pretty short. I think it ends up being stock even with the bellhousing adapter
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727 is pretty short. I think it ends up being stock even with the bellhousing adapter
That's what I'm hoping.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 08:18 PM
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