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Old September 16th, 2010, 07:22 PM
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Parts from your old rusty bulkhead

Hello All,

I recently purchased a new bulkhead for my 90 and it was missing the 3 brackets that hold the dash in place

If you have an old rusty scrap bulkhead that you would be willing to remove a few parts from please let me know as I am stuck between a rock and a hard place and it is holding up my entire project.

Removal should only require a little work with a drill or possibly a spot weld remover if you want to get fancy.

Here is a picture of the parts I need (both sides and center)

Thanks!!!!
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Old September 16th, 2010, 07:43 PM
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A sawzall or a cutting torch would also work if you do not want to drill the spot welds
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Old September 16th, 2010, 08:22 PM
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Just curious why not remove and reuse yours that are pictured? Also where did you get your new bulkhead?

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Old September 16th, 2010, 10:44 PM
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Its just bent tin. Make them.

Don't forget you'll need new wiper drives, arms and a late model motor drive gear to use that bulkhead as well.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 12:56 AM
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Just curious why not remove and reuse yours that are pictured?
My old bulkhead is still in repairable shape so I am trying to keep it in one piece, I was planning to fix it at a later time and keep it for a future project. In retrospect I should have just pulled the original one and patched it but thought it would save me time going with the new bulkhead.



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Its just bent tin. Make them.

Don't forget you'll need new wiper drives, arms and a late model motor drive gear to use that bulkhead as well.
Mike, I was so excited when you posted… Visions of bulkheads piled 10 ft high and one of your guys with a torch in hand cutting out the parts were dancing through my head

Unfortunately I am not in a position where I can make something like that at the moment and was hoping that someone out there would have a bulkhead beyond repair that I could rescue the parts from.

This bulkhead is kind of an odd duck as it is a TD5 bulkhead but did not come with the mount for the new style wiper motor and was missing the upper dash mounts.

From what I have seen other people post you can turn the square wiper arm holes into the older round style by welding new metal in that area and then mount the old motor to the bulkhead using a rivet nut for the top hole and a bolt / nut for the bottom hole.

Wiper hole modification
http://www.dsnclassics.co.uk/sjn/bulkhead.htm

Other modifications needed for TD5 bulkhead > older Defender (have to be logged in but has some nice pictures that show areas that need modified)
http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=38064

If I have missed something please let me know as I value and trust your knowledge.

Just trying to make lemonade from limes I guess
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Old September 17th, 2010, 12:13 PM
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From what I have seen other people post you can turn the square wiper arm holes into the older round style by welding new metal in that area and then mount the old motor to the bulkhead using a rivet nut for the top hole and a bolt / nut for the bottom hole.

Wiper hole modification
http://www.dsnclassics.co.uk/sjn/bulkhead.htm

Other modifications needed for TD5 bulkhead > older Defender (have to be logged in but has some nice pictures that show areas that need modified)
http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=38064

If I have missed something please let me know as I value and trust your knowledge.

Just trying to make lemonade from limes I guess
You could modify the wiper drive opening like that, but why?
The new wiper drives are so far superior to the old ones that it would be a serious down-grade IMO.

We'll have more bulkheads coming out soon, but nothing out right now. The scrap guy took the few we had last week.

Other mods.... depends on what gearbox and tunnel covers you want to run.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 01:40 PM
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You could modify the wiper drive opening like that, but why?
The new wiper drives are so far superior to the old ones that it would be a serious down-grade IMO.
I would go with the new style but the new bulkhead does not have the TD5 wiper mount

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We'll have more bulkheads coming out soon, but nothing out right now. The scrap guy took the few we had last week.
Keep me in mind please, I can pay you labor to cut the parts or buy one of your guys lunch or something if I have not found them by then whatever works for you.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 02:30 PM
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I would go with the new style but the new bulkhead does not have the TD5 wiper mount
Doesn't have to.

Mount the original wiper motor in the old style location and blend in the new parts I mentioned before and you are done.
I hate those stupid spline drive things that loosen up, get sloppy and makes the wipers hit stuff.

Just put a new bulkhead in a 1980's 110 and did this upgrade to it as well.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 03:48 PM
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Dave,
I think I have a new style wiper spindle lhd td5 thingy around if you need it.
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Doesn't have to.

Mount the original wiper motor in the old style location and blend in the new parts I mentioned before and you are done.
I hate those stupid spline drive things that loosen up, get sloppy and makes the wipers hit stuff.

Just put a new bulkhead in a 1980's 110 and did this upgrade to it as well.
Has anyone told you that you are awesome this week? If not let me be the first

For some reason I was under the impression that the TD5 wheel boxes would not work with the old cable and motor but I guess you found a way around that.

I like the idea of using the new parts and not having to modifying the holes. Would you mind elaborating on what parts / modifications are required to make it work? Please

New TD5 wheel boxes (any TD5 or year range?)
New wiper arms (any TD5 or year range?)
Old wiper motor with gear from a new wiper motor?? (any TD5 or year range?)
Cable from ?????

You have no idea how much I appreciate you bringing this to my attention and your willingness to share info with the group!

BTW #233 is looks like it is coming along nicely, I can not wait to see it in person
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Old September 17th, 2010, 07:22 PM
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BTW #233 is looks like it is coming along nicely, I can not wait to see it in person
We'll see about that Mr. talk smack about my mad bike riding skills! Remember the wiper blades go in the outside of the windshield...
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Old September 21st, 2010, 12:31 AM
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Dave. Check out this thread. I did the wiper mod and explain it here:

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=21689
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 09:14 AM
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Still looking

Alex,

Thanks for the tip, I would have installed them the wrong way as I thought they were designed to wipe off the condensation from the inside of the window. Guess I will have to install them on the outside of the glass now and buy a heated windscreen to deal with condensation

Ze,

Post is great thanks for the info.
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 09:31 AM
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Still looking

Alex,

Thanks for the tip, I would have installed them the wrong way as I thought they were designed to wipe off the condensation from the inside of the window. Guess I will have to install them on the outside of the glass now and buy a heated windscreen to deal with condensation

Ze,

Post is great thanks for the info.
If nobody wants my Bulkhead i'll cut them off for you, it will be a couple of weeks though until its off and I can see how bad it is..
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