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Old October 15th, 2012, 07:40 AM
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Looking for a Rover Torque Flight with Adapters

I am looking for a one of the old Torqueflight 727 transmissions from the mid-80's RRC and the Bell housing and transfer case adapters. I mainly need the adapters and the info on the output shaft so that I could find the proper tranny but it would be easier for every one involved to just take the whole thing. Or any one that has the specs and could machine a set of the adapters would work too.

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Old October 15th, 2012, 08:36 AM
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Now that's different. Guess you have a gray market Rangie?
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Old October 16th, 2012, 08:54 AM
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Are you trying to put an atlas transfer box in?
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Old October 16th, 2012, 07:48 PM
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Nope, I got a couple of old Buick 300's and a 340 that I am going to rebuild as a project and I have been told that the Buick will bolt to the 727.
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Old October 17th, 2012, 12:02 PM
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I was unaware that a mopar trans had a BOP bellhousing
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Old October 17th, 2012, 02:09 PM
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Jeff what I meant was, the Buick 215/Rover V8 bellhousing bolt pattern and the Buick 300/340 are different from each other... Meaning a 727 from behind a RV8 won't bolt to a 300/340 (to my knowledge).
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Old October 17th, 2012, 08:44 PM
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It has been a while since I did alot of research on the subject. Sort of got burned out on it when I tore down the first 300 block and found 2 blown out sleeves and one cracked. As I recall, I think you could use the International Version of the 727 but there was something that may have needed to be swapped out.

As for the bell housing, I am not 100% sure if the bolt pattern is the same or not but worst case I figured if I have the adapter I can either mill out new holes, fab a new one, or I think D&D Fab has one.

It may not ever work and I am definitely sure that it will end up being more expensive and take twice as long as just buying the adapter for a Chevy from Marks. I just get excited about some idea and won't let it go until I have proven to myself that I can do it.
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Old October 18th, 2012, 08:27 AM
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I posted a thread on pirate a few years ago that had the part numbers and what not. I've also got a Range Rover with that setup in it. FWIW I would much rather have the ZF box than that 3 speed turd.
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Old October 18th, 2012, 10:28 AM
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I have read ringing endorsements of the 727 as well as not so positive opinions. The setup would go into a crawler or a little D-90 P/U so not too worried about it being a daily driver or anything. My attraction to the 727 and the Buick block would be to keep it still realitively rover but do something different. Plus I have found tons of really cheap HD rebuild kits for the 727.

I remeber reading some stuff about it on pirate and found a guy that said he would mill me a set of the adapters and then I never heard back from him.
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Here is a terrible (only one I have) pic of the 3 speed that came out of my 84 RRC. I think this is the same trans/t-case set up you're talking about but its been 15yrs since I last saw it.
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Im doing just about the same thing but looking at running a 350 chevy to the TF.. I'm interested to see how these turn out!

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Jeff what I meant was, the Buick 215/Rover V8 bellhousing bolt pattern and the Buick 300/340 are different from each other... Meaning a 727 from behind a RV8 won't bolt to a 300/340 (to my knowledge).
I am pretty sure the RV8 had an adapter to bolt to the TF 727... I'm sure Advance Adapters sells the adapter needed to run a 300/340 to a scout trans.. I know for a fact they sell one for the early 350
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I am pretty sure the RV8 had an adapter to bolt to the TF 727...


Not that I recall, I want to say it bolted right up. Can't remember if the Bell housing was removable and therefore rover specific but it bolted up direct to the back of the engine I think. Been a long time though like I say.

If you look at the pic of my old Torqflite above that is a rover pattern on that BH. There was no adaptor that I recall. It should be in that pic if there was as thats the whole trans/tcase set up right after I separated it from the engine. I didn't take a lot of notice of it to be honest as it wasn't going back in and was scrapped.
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OK, ignore the above post and the picture further up. I think now looking at it again closer, it’s just a really, really bad pic of the ZF that I put in the truck to replace the TF with. I can’t find a pic of the TF anywhere and I want to say it was 1 piece with the BH so there probably was an adaptor. Getting old I guess...
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Old October 20th, 2012, 10:20 AM
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OK, ignore the above post and the picture further up. I think now looking at it again closer, itís just a really, really bad pic of the ZF that I put in the truck to replace the TF with. I canít find a pic of the TF anywhere and I want to say it was 1 piece with the BH so there probably was an adaptor. Getting old I guess...
Yep it's a 1 piece trans and the ridges on that make it look like a ZF the TF is smooth.

Here's a pic of the different models.. The Scout model is the same as the rover but came with an adapter to the 10 spline for the LT230.

http://www.ihonlynorth.com/forums/at...-cmparison.jpg
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Old October 26th, 2012, 05:56 AM
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I found a guy in Austrailia selling what I think is the tailshaft adapter for the 727 to the RRC. I am going to email him to double check and see if there is a way to get the BH adapter or atleast the specs. Maybe these things are just lying around like weeds down there... The part number he lists is FRC5636.
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